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These threads are always interesting. The sense of entitlement is overwhelming. Certainly the CHL is a right and not a privilege, but with that right comes some rules. If a LEO asked me to disarm, or chose to disarm me so be it, it is within the law that he can do so if he reasonably believes it is necessary for his, yours and others protection. A reasonable belief being one in which an ordinary and prudent person would make in the same circumstance. So here I am, as ordinary as they come and pretty prudent and I would want your gun away from you. If you are staying in the car, I'd say just keep your hands clear. But if I felt it necessary to get you out of the car I'm going to put myself at ease and disarm you. After all, why do you need your weapon on your person while you are in the care of a LEO (I imagine there are folks out there who day dream of traffic stops gone bad where they save the day and protect a wounded officer from a car full of banditos hell bent on revenge)?

While on the topic, the level of paranoia that some folks on this board live with everyday must be borderline debilitating. I am all for being prepared and situational awareness, but you don't need an underpants holster for the hours between 10pm-6am. I carry in situation when I don't feel I can maintain sufficient control of the surroundings. So yes that looks like most of the time when I am out of the house. But my first line of defense is always avoidance. I will always seek to avoid putting myself in a position to need my weapon. The side of the road with a LEO is a place I do not need my weapon in reach.

I don't think that the officer is going to write me a ticket for lack of concealment for the brief moment it takes me to replace my weapon, while out in the wilds of public street Texas. Mostly because I am not going to touch the weapon until he and I are both at ease with the situation (ie he is in his car driving down the road). Even then the gun is just going back into the pocket at the front of my seat, since if I can't reach it with ease it isn't any good.