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Sorry, didn't mean to start a caliber war but glad I did with all the great discussion on personal preferences it is interesting to say the least. But, again, and let's just look at 9mm for a minute, what about the 9mm with the Winchester Ranger (old talon) type of round vs say a .40 or .45 in just hollow point. Wouldn't that make a difference in our caliber war discussions? "LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE" Sorry, just couldn't help myself?

TAM, I understand we're your coming from now. I like the 45 myself and the wife will shoot nothing other than the 9mm so that is why I got her the Winchester Ranger 127 +p to hopefully make up for the difference. Plus might add she is a very good shot, she grew up on a farm in west texas and did alot of hunting with the brothers, so just want to make sure she'll be fine on herself. So, again thanks for your input. Also, thanks for the heads up on the 1911 tool for my Kimber.

I'm interested as well in why the 9mm is ineffective? Please splain for me...

Great discussions and I'm learning a lot, so thanks to all for posting and still need more input to increase knowledge which increases wisdom

gigago4. Do you think on the qualifying; was it the grip size on the 21sf or the .45 caliber that made a difference?
Do you think your feeling towards the .40 is mirrored by others within the dept and other department's or agencies due to it being .40?

Thanks to all. this is been some great input and learning for me and I'm sure other readers. I own more 9's, 1 45 and 1 380 but looking for one more caliber to use, so again appreicate all information plus any other thoughts to come.

Just curious, I find a lot of folks on this board with 40 caliber's, just curious what is the attraction. Shot it personally and would rather shoot a .45 so just curious what the thought process is for some of the .40 folks
Maybe ignorance on my part just trying to find out, never know may go out and purchase one for the right reason? Of course, I guess you don't really need a reason for a new firearm, now do ya
Thanks for any and all input.