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Apophis wrote:All this discussion on liberals and conservatives. Where does libertarian tend to fall into place here? We seem to be hated by both.

Fence straddler....

snatchel wrote: "Why would we put guns in the hands of kids who are no doubt going to party all the time"
-no alcohol with CHL while carrying, we all know this

I know it's been a while since I was in College (ASU for me too, Arkansas State though) but I can't remember one time I attended a kegger on campus in a classroom. I need to find out which schools here in Texas are having such an issue with drinking and debauchery in their classrooms, that CHL carry would be such an issue. I have two teens who will be in College soon. I need to make sure they're not attending these schools.

Hoi Polloi wrote:<snipped>...</snipped> Anyone identified, in any way, as being a conservative obviously would fall into that category in their minds. This is what they think of anyone who isn't a criminal, but wants to carry a gun. It doesn't matter what your religion or if you like Nascar or if you abuse your wife or if you're even heterosexual. You're still one and the same to them.

Hoi Polloi,

We'll never get through to bigots like that. I know a couple of CHL holders around San Antonio who are pretty harsh in their opinions of church goers too.
I'm just proud to represent some of what they're denigrating...

1. I clean my weapons regularly, I'm a fan of them working when I want them to. (Plus, They're too expensive to let them ruin)
2. I enjoy a good dark beer from time to time. Especially when cooking on the grill in Texas summers.
3. I never did care much for Nascar, I'll watch a race on a dirt track any day of the week though.


I'm not much on back handing my wife though... I'm fond of keeping All of my parts attached, and she knows where I sleep and where we keep the good knives.

Edit: Edited because on second thought I felt I might be getting close to rules violations.

I had one of the few well reasoned discussions about Campus carry I've had with one of my coworkers yesterday evening.
We were talking about the childish stuff that goes on in Austin to get bills passed, and we rolled around to Campus Carry.

I told him that we lost the battle because we allowed them to control the PR spin. They made it sound like the bill armed
all the 18 year old kids at keg parties. I pointed out that people who would carry already had their licenses and carried everywhere else.
And I told him I was pretty sure those keg parties everyone was so worried about weren't really happening in the class rooms where
this bill allowed carry. The class room was one of the few places the students weren't sowing their wild oats. He agreed that the
drunken out of control student was a straw man. And pointed out that he didn't buy the Virginia Tech argument either, that CHL
holders could stop the situation. I agreed with him, and told him that I felt the Rambo and John Wayne attitudes of some CHL holders
hurts the cause.

He asked me if I were in a situation where I hear gunshots near me, and I turn and there's a BG and a CHL holder who has drawn on the BG,
how do I know which one to shoot. I told him that personally, my first reaction would be to take cover and protect myself and my family if they
were in the area. I'm not a shoot from the hip kind of guy. I have to be sure of my target, what's beyond the target, and have a pretty good reason
for shooting at my target. Just having a gun isn't a valid reason for me to shoot either of them. But the first one to aim his gun at me becomes a likely
target. He seemed to be OK with that answer, and seemed to be a step closer to being okay with Campus Carry by the end of our conversation.