No, it is designed to have the grip safety so that it won't fire accidentally. The thumb safety is simply another layer, as is carrying in condition 3. It is actually more safe in its original design than many revolvers of the same period if the revolver was carried with a round under the hammer, since it actually HAD a safety in the grip!SCone wrote:Seems that Mr Browning's original design didn't even have a thumb safety. It was added to meet the Army's design criteria. And since the Army taught the weapon to be carried in "condition 3" until needed....... wouldn't it make sense to say that Mr Browning designed the gun to be carried in "condition 3"? And the thumb safety is a way to easily make the gun "safe" for short periods of time?
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- Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:53 pm
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Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
- Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:51 pm
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Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
My XD 45 Compact isn't DAO, it's SA. It has a long trigger pull and is striker fired, but the slide must be racked to cock it before it will fire. I keep it with one in the pipe, just like my 1911.KaiserB wrote:Not meaning to toss fuel on the fire. I can understand having one in the pipe with a 1911, or a SA/DA auto (HK, Ruger, S&W) with thumb safety. But what about guns such as a Glock or Springfield XD that are DAO that do not have a thumb safety, or other lockout (besides the trigger safety)?
It has a trigger safety (sorta like the Glock one), and a grip safety like the 1911. You have to grip it securely AND pull the trigger properly to fire it. The newer models are available with a thumb safety, but my understanding is that it is a configuration developed for some police departments and for the US Military (who won't even consider a pistol without a thumb safety - even a Glock would need one to qualify for testing) to meet their requirements, not because of any inherent flaw in the original design. I believe that the original will continue to be available for those who don't want the extra (fourth) safety.
A safety is only a mechanical supplement to the REAL safety between your ears. If you don't finger the trigger until you want to shoot, it won't go bang.