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srothstein wrote:

zigzag wrote:It will surely be a ugly scenario if ever the feds try to disarm the citizenry. The country was founded on the 2nd Amendment Right.

I have always wonders if the anti's who argue the Second is not about a personal right remember what touched off the first battle for our freedom. There were a lot of causes of the Revolution, but, IIRC, the first actual battle was fought over the British trying to confiscate the arms of the citizens in Lexington and Concord. That would indicate to me that this country was founded on the right of the people (individuals) to keep and bear arms.

Interesting that you should bring this up. This is what I remember as being some of the first armed battles as well. One of the others was the Boston Massacre, in which there was some dispute about how "armed" the Bostonians were (they had snowballs & firewood, I believe). At any rate, a significant part of what was happening at the time was the British crown's attempts to disarm us to prevent armed uprisings.

lrb111 wrote:Snopes is anti-gun. I read their analysis twice, and I still don't see where they actually take the information apart.
They are typically dismissive, and then use the same tactics they accuse the original writer of using

You will be hard pressed to find pro-gun evidence on their site.
There's more, but just more politics.

Noted. I'll still continue to use them, but will have to research anything firearms related in more detail than they give. In this instance, however, they actually point to the official crime reports and such for Australia in the timeframes mentioned (and their links go to more current data than they have in their report as well), and the official sources support Snopes' claims. I don't know how accurate the official sources are though. As we all know, official reports sometimes reflect the prejudices of those in power and not the realities of life...

carlson1 wrote:Maybe a good point, but I have a question about "snoopes." Is it inspired? I personally have never heard of it. But I am glad there are is something on the "internet" we KNOW for a fact is true. I just posted an email.

Snopes.com is one of the reference sites for checking if things are true or not. I've used it for several years now to check on the claims of emails that are forwarded to me and to other various claims made on the Internet. I have yet to find any bias of inaccuracy in what they offer. I use it much like many folks use a dictionary or an encyclopedia. They usually offer links to other sites where the information they cite is found and they only post a listing as true or false if they can independantly verify or debunk the claim.

Not to poke holes for the sake of poking holes, but you might want to review this page at the Urban Legends reference site Snopes.com before you share this. If we want to be taken seriously in our claims, we need to work hard to use accurate & useful information, not specious or misleading claims.