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cyphur wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:

cyphur wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:All good to know man. Any reason someone would not get a chrome lined barrel? I priced some 1 in 8 twist barrels which alone seem to run 200+

1in7 barrels can run 55gr and up, below 55gr you may run into issues with spinning the projectile too fast and run into issues with projectible wobble/disintegration and very poor accuracy results.


1in8 tries to combine best of both worlds, but most folks either settle on one or the other, hence why 1in7 and 1in9 barrels are cheaper - they are mass produced and sold in quantity. Economy of scale.....

Sounds to me like 1 in 7 will do just fine. So far I have not got a call back from SWAT FIREARMS and i called Saturday. Seems like every avenue I am pointed in online everyone is out of stock....

Lauer was the lower with the safety I liked at Cabelas. I saw a M&P lower that had pretty much the same feel yet a different M&P lower did not. So something has those safetys kind of "spongy" best way I can explain it. Stiff enough not to get thrown accidentally but lose enough to activate/deactivate with ease.

I need to get one and start learning im itching! I understand the free float but no clue when "mid length gas blocks" are done.

I strongly recommend you start doing some reading, before you buy one. You should know all of the parts of the rifle, what they do, how it functions, etc before you operate it.

Nothing beats hands on experience, but you should not embark on that learning ignorantly without a basic understanding of the rifle. Not knowing the function of the gas block leads me to believe you still have some reading to do. If I am wrong and you simply misunderstood me, forgive me, but I'd rather err on the side of safety and not assume you know things you do not.

cyphur wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:All good to know man. Any reason someone would not get a chrome lined barrel? I priced some 1 in 8 twist barrels which alone seem to run 200+

1in7 barrels can run 55gr and up, below 55gr you may run into issues with spinning the projectile too fast and run into issues with projectible wobble/disintegration and very poor accuracy results.


1in8 tries to combine best of both worlds, but most folks either settle on one or the other, hence why 1in7 and 1in9 barrels are cheaper - they are mass produced and sold in quantity. Economy of scale.....

cyphur wrote:

A BCG right now tends to run about $140-$160 when you find them in stock. I ordered a full 5.56MM BCG for my PSA 6.8 build, I'll just grab a 6.8SPC bolt and swap it out.


As far as a budget AR build - Hammer Forged does not exactly fall under "budget" IMHO. You can get uppers for $120 less from PSA that will suit you just fine. Such as these:

16" Mid-length A2 Profile CMV CL

16" Mid-Length Heavy Profile CMV CL


$280 upper, $150 BCG, $99 PSA lower(or wait for the lower to go on sale for $59 blem), grab a basic PSA lower build kit for $80, and you have yourself a roughly $600 AR.

You could go with the $130 complete NFA lower and shaved some coin off of the cost, not sure what your application for the rifle is or your comfort zone with a composite lower is. The jury is out for me, haven't used one yet. Will not recommend them until I do.

OldCannon wrote:A-R's advice is good, that CMMG will definitely be a good deal. If you're trying to squeeze every dollar you can though, just remember that buying a rifle in Texas is another 7-8% higher due to sales taxes. The challenge is finding one online that's in stock -- the cheap ones go fast.

Rex and TAM are right, stick with buying, then build. One of the nice things about buying a "cheap" AR is that you can often get back what you paid for it if you decide to resell. They're always in high demand.

Another option is to get an inexpensive New Frontier Armory complete lower and then buy an inexpensive upper from a place like JSE Surplus (http://www.jsesurplus.com/16uppers.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;). Technically, you could have a complete AR for under $600 that way (easily).

Remember, if you "Do It Yourself" assemble a lower and upper together, you bypass the mandatory 11% Federal Excise Tax that's built in to all complete rifles.

cyphur wrote:

1s1k52 wrote:I had to google PSA AR to find what yall were talking about. That is good to know about the 1:9 barrel not eating 77 grain very well. Most guns I see only come with 1:9. Does that apply to just 5.56? Asking because eventually I am getting a 6.8 upper.

WASP vs Chrome seems to be up for debate...

Palmetto shows to be out of stock so??

the 14.5 route is just me trying to get as short of a carbine as possible. So unless I just have something backwards or wrong please let me know.

Different calibers will require different twists. My .308 bolt runs 1in12, the 6.8 I have coming is 1in11. 1in9 is too fast for 6.8......