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It's ashamed that everyone could not have gotten together for this bill and helped modify it and we could have had a double win this session. It's too long between sessions if you ask me to possibly get a bill past next time. It may not happen then either. So, it could be years from now if this chance get's passed by.

Keith B wrote:

johnferg69 wrote:Help me out here. Unlike most of you I'm not a member of the BAR so I have a question. I read what I think was the HB2756 bill. It was on the legis.state.tx.us website so it may not be the one everyone commiting on. It looks like they just took the CC law and marked out "concealed" so it would read "carry a handgun". How would this possibly ban conceal carry? If it possibly bans conceal carry because its not expressly written wouldn't it possible ban open carry too because open carry is not expressly written?

The problem is the way the bill is written, it would be for LICENSED open carry. Once the word got out that people are going to be able to carry handguns in plain view, then many locations will be looking for how to keep them from doing it. And, the 30.06 would be valid for both concealed and open carry, so when they post the sign, it will prohibit ANY carry in the location. So, as written the bill is not a good option for CHL'ers.

I still don't see if the 30.06 sign was enough to deter posting for concealed carry why it wouldn't be enough to deter open carry. If it's too big of a problem for companies that want to keep out legal citizens carrying concealed guns to post 30.06 signs today what makes anyone think just because open carry might pass there going to be any more apt to post 30.06 signs?

People are lazy by nature. They know in the back of their head that people can carry today yet they don't take the time to post 30.06 signs and I doubt even w/OC your it's to be like the old west. We have examples from other parts of the country that are OC and it's just not that way.

To answer the question posted earlier about if I was around when CHL's were first passed "Yes" I was 21 at the time. I honestly don't remember signs I"m sure there were some but where are those same signs today? Why didn't the store owners replace all the gun buster signs w/30.06 signs? Surely if you REALLY wanted to keep someone w/a gun out you wouldn't care that the sign was a little big and had to be worded properly. I rarely see any gun buster signs and I've only seen one 30.06 sign and I live in DFW and go a lot of places.

Let me just say that I certainly understand being afraid to lose something you already have a the ability to do. I can understand that people are afraid that it's going to be harder for CHL'ers to carry if OC passes but I don't know how much of this fear is possibly over reacting to something that might happen but very well might not. We shouldn't be afraid to move forward for fear of what might happen.

Paragrouper wrote:

Sir,

That was certainly an impassioned post.

Unfortunately, you did not adequately address concerns raised by many members of the forum, myself included, regarding the impact this would have on CHL's by changing the wording of 30:06. If you want my support you need to realize that I do not carry a gun to make a political statement--I carry for self protection. I am very concerned with accessibility and I further believe the the practical disadvantages of open carry outweigh any possible advantages. Bottom line: OC is not high on my 'things to do list.'

I suggest that if you want my support that you work with the author of HB 2756 and amend the langauge into something that addresses my concerns. You may want to hurry, because time is running out on this session.

Good luck

I don't think anyone can adequately answer that. Did anyone know when CHL's were first introduced there wouldn't be signs on every entrance? Just the stirring and comment's about gun law in the legislature probably get a few signs added around Texas because people hear about it. Get interested and worried etc... No one can ever predict the outcome of something like that. Just as there are those that worry about more signs going up w/this current bill NO ONE REALLY knows what will happen. It's all speculation.

So, this bill seems to be moving along. What are the plans to derail or change it up? Do we still think it's not going to make it through?