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mojo84 wrote:I'm realizing just how challenging it is for churches and other similar member organizations to keep their people and premises safe with the current occupation code that protects security company's revenues.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

SewTexas wrote:so, if, hypothetically, you could get an "off-limits repeal" bill passed, would that also take care of the "church security team" also? or is that a totally different problem?

Two different issues. We can carry in churches not, unless we have notice pursuant to 30.06. The volunteer security teams issue relates to Chp. 1701 of the Occupations Code.

Chas.

Dori wrote:

booze97 wrote:1. Replace Joe Straus with a pro-gun conservative as Speaker of the House. Everything else has a 1000x better chance of happening after that.

A nice dream but is there even a chance of Straus getting the D or F grade he really deserves from gun groups?

kenobi wrote:

jmra wrote: the strong lobbying arm of security firms who were afraid they were going to lose some of the easiest money they make.

I'm opposed to loopholes for special interest groups. If it's a bad law, repeal it for everyone.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Dave2 wrote:

android wrote:

RPBrown wrote:With all of the lengthy discussions here about church carry and security teams, I am surprised to see the number for that so low.

I don't even go to church and I picked that one. I have read about the issue and I think it's a burdensome restriction.

I didn't pick that one because I don't see what makes churches special in this regard. I'd either make the exception for all non-profits in general, or not for anybody (not sure which).

Churches do have a unique need for this legislation that no other non-profit experiences. (The bill also applies to schools.) No other non-profit organization tends to have a large number of people gathered in one location on a regular basis, thus making the planning and attack by a mass murdered easier. Churches are targeted specifically because they are places of worship.

Very few churches post 30.06 signs and many tens of thousands of CHLs carry handguns in church every Sunday, as well as other days. Texas law allows people to defend themselves and others and there is no doubt that many CHLs will respond to a violent attack in their churches. Being able to form a volunteer security team and educate/coordinate with fellow armed church members will increase overall safety.

Chas.