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steveincowtown wrote:#2> The general public is NOT going to look at this situation and say "I can't believe someone tried to break into his gun case."

I bet the GP would have a fit if they thought somebody was trying to get at your guns while in a secure area of an airport.

I'd bet they care less about what you shipped legally and in a secure container than the fact that 1. your guns were tampered with and 2. their own belongings were on the same conveyor.

Just my guess.... That's how I'd feel, anyways.

Just burns my buns that the officer refused to file a report....

RoyGBiv

C-dub wrote:
gigag04 wrote:I've been asked to open the case and show clear once.

I was baffled - and curious if the ticket agent knew a thing about firearms or not.

It's kind of funny that I open carry a .45 all day long an work, but all of a sudden I'm seen in plain clothes with a pocket pistol on the airport and I get looks.

Interested to see what my trip to MA, CT, and NY in the August, and possibly DC in Sept will involve while carrying.
Be REAL careful up there. They don't care that you are a LEO and are even less impressed that you are from Texas. And we know that the airport people will turn you in so quick you'd think they get a bonus for doing so.

If he's a "Qualified Law Enforcement Officer", Mr. Bloomberg can go suck eggs........ LEOSA
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RoyGBiv

steveincowtown wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:A little update.

On my return flight things worked a little differently. Instead of taking me to the TSA oversize check in, the gate agent simply handed me a Firearms Dec Card. I filled it out, and locked the case and then duct taped the ends. He said to pay attention to the Terminal PA, because if TSA needed to open it for any reason they would be paging me.

I will be getting a new case ASAP.

Based on the comments I have also decided to contact DFW Airport Police, Irving Police, and the correlating departments at my destination airport.
Irving's finest directed me to DFW airport police. A Sgt. at DFW Airport Police listened to what I said and then passed me onto an officer to take a "Criminal Mischief" report. The Officer than refused to take a report saying "things like this happen."

She said although they do patrol the gates they can't be everywhere at once and that occasionally ramp workers do things like this. She was not interested in investigating it any further, did not ask about my flight #'s or gates, and said nothing else could be done.

Although my insides were boiling I calmly told her that I hoped the attitude of the DFW Airport Police towards this type activity changed sometime before someone actually manages to end up with weapons and ammo in the secured area of the airport, around thousands of passengers, and millions of gallons of jet fuel.

Lame...

I will buy a new metal case, devise a cable lock system to secure my weapons in the case, and realize that once again Airports are generally secured using reactive measures, not proactive.

You got the officers name, yes?
My first call would be DFW security supervisor.
If I didn't get a different answer, I'd call the local news station.
Given what happened in Colorado yesterday, I'm certain they'd love to hear your story.

RoyGBiv

I'm

reading this thread...

I've never been asked to open the metal case containing my gun. Not by the ticket counter folks and not by TSA. I always just assumed that TSA could see the gun clearly when they ran the bag through their x-ray and they didn't need to see more than they saw. I typically secure a tie wrap through the barrel before I lock the gun in the case. I always assumed it was visible in the x-ray.? Other than swiping the outside of the case and checking for explosives residue, TSA has not fondled my gun case in any way that I thought was excessive or in any way that I thought would indicate any suspicion (of me, by them)...

It sounds like other folks have had to open the gun case at various times? Not me...

Sorry to be off topic...

I still would have made a stink, and made a report about my gun case being pried during transit.

RoyGBiv

steveincowtown wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
Did they get anything?

Also, since that is not normal wear & tear, I think the airline might be liable for the damages.

They did not. It was a shotgun case in which I had an AR15 in the middle, a Glock at each end, and holsters/ammo between the Glocks and the end. I intend on duct taping the ends after the TSA inspects it on the way back. I will also be looking for a new case.

After TSA inspects the case, they will not allow you to touch it before it arrives at your destination. At least that's been my experience. I like to add a TSA-compliant lock to my soft luggage after the "gun" inspection. I've always had to give the lock to the TSA agent for them to put on.

Also.... If I were you, I would have taken some photos of the pried case and filed a report with both airport police agencies (VA and DFW)... Attempted theft of your luggage contents is a crime. Attempted theft of your firearms while in transit on an airline is probably a Federal crime. I would most certainly not trust the Airline to investigate this without also informing the police. One of those airports has a thief for an employee... YMMV

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