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Educators should not have the final word on whether anyone can exercise their 2A rights. They are unqualified to hold such sway. Their priorities do not align with protecting my rights, nor does their mindset (generally). As we can see in the real world, there are only a handful of places where educators have exercised their authority to allow license holders to carry in grade schools and even then I don't know of any place in Texas that permits non-employee license holders to carry. Handing this decision over to educators has, in the past, served only to maintain a de-facto ban. It has been a legislative cop-out. A way to say "see, we did our part but The Chancellor/Superintendent/School Board won't allow it". I understand the political and media realities behind it. Doesn't make it any less disappointing.

It took us a while to prevent government from infringing on concealed carry on government property, but the lessons learned there did not translate to schools and colleges.

We'll see how this Bill turns out in real life. It'll be a solid step forward, assuming the Legislature follows up their "intent" with action. I'm betting that until we put some clearer boundaries and teeth in the law, ala SB 273, the de-facto ban will linger.

Hopefully SB 11 is the crack in the dam.

steveincowtown wrote:Thanks to Charles, Alice, TSRA, NRA, and to every single person on this board who took the time out to call/write/email.

1,000%.

Thank you!

Passed 98-47

v7a wrote:The current Rep that's speaking against SB11 must the dumbest Rep I've heard speak this session.

Wilfully ignorant.

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SB 11 Birdwell / et al.
SP: Fletcher
Relating to the carrying of handguns on the campuses of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education; providing a criminal penalty.

No calendar posted yet for Sunday.

When is the House set to vote on SB 11?

Passed the Senate... 21-10

TrueFlog wrote:

TrueFlog wrote:If a school declares an area off-limits that is not considered reasonable within legislative intent, what recourse is there? For example, if they declare all common areas with TV's off-limits, is there a way for the students to challenge that? How are the schools be held accountable for making "reasonable" decisions?

Nevermind: Birdwell just answered my question. Nothing can be done until the next time the legislature meets as which point they can decide to modify or clarify the law.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the dust to settle on this.
Certainly some universities will push the envelope..... The question will be whether and how hard the legislature will push back.

It may take a few cycles for the legislature to establish boundaries. I have zero faith in any Board of Regents to police themselves within "legislative intent" acceptable boundaries on gun issues.

Why is it that the default assumption is that licensed concealed carry in a daycare is a bad idea?

IMO, schools and daycare are among the most important places where I want law abiding people to carry.

Senator Birdwell is doing an excellent job explaining things.

I'm finding the "legislative intent" discussion very useful.

There's lots of head shaking to go around, but, IMO the single biggest facepalm goes to Senator Huffines for failing to Amend HB 910 to be EXACTLY, word-for-word, punctuation-for-punctuation, the same as the version received from the House. Major fail.

Hopefully it can still be salvaged.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't have a problem with that. I would very much like to know why a LARGE part of the representatives who voted for HB 910 with the Dutton Amendment ended up voting against it with the Huffines Amendment.

A groundswell of negative feedback from law enforcement between the day it was passed by the House (21-April) and the day it was received back from the Senate (25-May).

NorthTexas wrote:http://www.statesman.com/news/news/sena ... ill/nmQW7/

"Meantime, a House-Senate conference committee made short work of House Bill 910, which allows those with a concealed handgun license to openly carry a firearm in a shoulder or belt holster.

The bill will return to both houses with a major sticking point removed — an amendment, added by Sen. Don Huffines, R-Dallas, that barred law enforcement from detaining or questioning those with a holstered gun solely to check for a concealed handgun license."

That is great news.!

I'm glad to see them make quick work of resolving it and hope it gets passed.

Thanks for the link.

I'm away from any video capability for a few hours.
Any eta on 910 coming to the floor?

Is this ribbing standard practice?
I find it insulting, but, maybe I'm missing the hazing aspect of it.

Seems beneath the role of a legislator.