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by RottenApple
Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: concealed carry in my church
Replies: 17
Views: 4291

Re: concealed carry in my church

BrianSW99 wrote:
RottenApple wrote:My synagogue has no problems with concealed carry and, when it is only members at a function (Shabbat service, Sukkoth, or any other get together), our Rabbi has given us all permission to open carry. Personally I open carry at almost every Shabbat unless we have guests (wouldn't want to frighten visitors after all). But then, I'm also the sound engineer and in a little booth hidden from view most of the time.
I don't think this is legal, even with your Rabbi's permission. At a minimum, this would be intentional failure to conceal if you have a CHL. I believe it would also be PC46.02 Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon because the only exceptions are for property you own or property that is directly under your control. There is no provision for open carry by permission.

Brian
Interesting. However, as an elder in the synagogue and one of the leadership team, it is "property that is directly under [my] control". There is no difference between myself open carrying at synagogue and a gun store/range employee open carrying in their place of business.
by RottenApple
Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: concealed carry in my church
Replies: 17
Views: 4291

Re: concealed carry in my church

My synagogue has no problems with concealed carry and, when it is only members at a function (Shabbat service, Sukkoth, or any other get together), our Rabbi has given us all permission to open carry. Personally I open carry at almost every Shabbat unless we have guests (wouldn't want to frighten visitors after all). But then, I'm also the sound engineer and in a little booth hidden from view most of the time.
RPB wrote:Not intentionally hijacking, but a thought popped into my head reading the last couple posts... which is related to granting permission

Nevada's campus carry hangup was that not enough college Staff/faculty/students had ASKED permission, so it wasn't clear that a law needed to be passed.

They went by "Ye received not (permission to carry) because ye asked not."

And stated that a vehicle was already in place for licensees to carry .... all you had to do was ask.
So, IIRC everything was tabled to study if the law was in fact, unnecessary or something. (in other words, the antis won that round)
We may see this in Texas in 2013 regarding campus carry, if no one documents asking/being denied.

I think NV had to compile stats on # requests and # granted and # denied or something.
I guess anyone can do that, I have no intention of setting foot on a campus in a building, but anyone can request permission ... to get stats.

Remind me later in the year, to e-mail/write to every Texas campus requesting permission.
Perhaps a form letter request and mass mailing; easy on E-mail and I did buy postage stamps before the price increase,

Could be fun if a few hundred of us request permission from every campus in Texas, not only would we get Stats, but we might get noticed, and be able to wheel in our boxes of evidence at the House/Senate hearings to counter their fake straw poll summary papers.. :mrgreen:
Not disagreeing with anything you have said, but I see two problems with this viewpoint (of the NV government): 1) Why should a person have to ASK permission to excursive a fundamental right and 2) most CHLers probably wouldn't ask because "concealed is concealed". I know that I certainly wouldn't want a school I attend (if I attended a school) to have my info and to know that I carry.

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