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by speedsix
Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:44 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX
Replies: 35
Views: 6715

Re: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX

...agreed, "batman license" CHL cape, sash, or badge labels are inflammatory, like "wannabe cop" and "rent-a-cop"...sometimes it's not what we say, it's the way we say it...and sometimes we say it that way on purpose...it's best to discuss the attitude, opinion, or behavior instead of labelling it...but I'm one of the worst offenders...Mama said if I was a washing machine part, it'd HAVE to be the agitator...guilty as charged...
by speedsix
Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:46 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX
Replies: 35
Views: 6715

Re: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX

...when I'm pulled over, the first thing he/she sees as he walks up is my smiling face and two paws on the window sill of the door...one clutching my DL and CHL...if he can count paws...that oughta relax him a little...
by speedsix
Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:33 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX
Replies: 35
Views: 6715

Re: First LEO Encounter - Friendswood, TX

The Annoyed Man wrote:
GlennGAH wrote:The one thing that I learned during this encounter is that our Law Enforcement Brothers and Sisters understand that we are on their side and they see us as an asset. I have seen the horrible Dash Cam videos of incidents where LEO's are attacked while pullling someone over. I drive frequently for travel and always keep a sharp lookout for LEOS's who have pulled someone over. When I drive past, I try to observe what is taking place. I am committed to covering their backs if there is ever an incident and I am close enough to assist.

God Bless & Protect our Law Enforcement Officers!
A noble sentiment, and one that may well get you shot by the officer who is in trouble, or shot by his backup brother officers who are on their way to the scene. If I were you, I would work out WELL in advance exactly how you would insert yourself into such a situation without alarming the cop and bringing bad juju down on your own head despite your best intentions.

Look, I'm not knocking how you feel about it, and I think that most of us here have it at least in our hearts to want to be helpful in such a situation if we could do so without making things worse either for the cop or for ourselves, but your CHL is not a batman license. You are probably far more useful if you take a position behind cover (not concealment) and help with communications by calling 911 and providing them with an independent witness as to what is happening, and to whom. Only involve yourself as a shooter, or as a physical aggressor if you have no other alternative to save your own life, or if the officer in question ASKS for your help, or he's down and out of the fight and about to be killed. I'm betting that most of them won't ask, because it is not in their nature to drag citizens into danger, and doing so is neither in their job descriptions nor in their department policies.

Just my 2¢.

...I personally know two officers who are alive today because a citizen made the decision to step up with a gun and stop a BG:one BG who had disarmed the officer and had his own gun to his head cocked and about to shoot him; one, a lady who maced a carney who had a gun to the officer's head(he'd left his gun in the car... sometimes it goes real well...there's a lot to be considered quickly to make the right decision...don't let anyone belittle your willingness to help, but don't jump in without knowing A LOT about what's really going on and what's wise IN THAT SITUATION...

...it is in state law that a LEO can direct a citizen to become involved...more often, the officer isn't able to ask...he's too busy trying to stay alive...I wouldn't ask him to wait for his backup...anymore than I'd wait for him to get there if I needed help...

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