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Keith B wrote:

speedsix wrote:...I don't read that in the law...46.035 says that we commit an offense if we INTENTIONALLY, KNOWINGLY, OR RECKLESSLY carry in a business that has a 51% permit...if it's not posted, the intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly haven't been met...

...any test cases to see how the prosecution handled those points?

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Scott in Houston wrote:

speedsix wrote:

OldCannon wrote:My understanding is that 30.06 was clearly specified so that the signage wouldn't have variations. Otherwise a business owner can claim a simple "gunbusters" sign is sufficient "intent", right?

...right, like a 51% sign ...the law is specific so that we know where we stand...it gives us a mark to hit...and when we hit it...we're safe...no moving the goalposts during the game...allowing any size lettering contrary to the specified size is just like writing us a ticket for doing 40 when it's posted 40 and telling us "well, we meant 30"...

And 51% means nothing if the TABC license says "gun sign=blue" but they put up the 51% anyway.

I see this a LOT! And TABC hasn't done squat about it. I've reported more than 5 locations.

Oldgringo wrote:

speedsix wrote:...having spoken to one legislator who helped draft 30.06, I know that their intention was that we know EXACTLY where we stand...and be able to confidently follow the letter of the law...safely...

...as often happens...there are those more bold(foolhardy) who say to ignore the law...and those more timid who say to leave a lot of leeway and don't live by the letter of the law...neither have the benefit of the protection of the law as it was intended...to give those who want to restrict our carrying a mark to hit...if they don't hit it...we get to carry...if they do go to the trouble to follow the law...we don't...

...what's going to happen to us if WE fail to live up to the letter of the law...we're punished...
...my choice is that if THEY fail to live up to the letter of the law...they get ignored...
...and before he says it: CONCEALED IS CONCEALED...that's why we don't have test cases yet...

How'd you know I was gonna' say that?

OldCannon wrote:My understanding is that 30.06 was clearly specified so that the signage wouldn't have variations. Otherwise a business owner can claim a simple "gunbusters" sign is sufficient "intent", right?