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TAM.....get what you can get fixed while they will still do it. I am guessing it won't be too long till a blood test is considered extraordinary care only to be used in the most severe cases.

baldeagle wrote:

gringo pistolero wrote:It's interesting to observe many of these complaints are coming from people who already embraced socialist medicine in the form of medicare, etc. Don't take this the wrong way because I'm not in favor of obamacare. In fact, I think it's unconstitutional like 90% or more of the federal laws on the books, despite what old people in robes say, but I think it's an interesting comment on the differences between principles and practice.

Embraced you say? Pay attention grasshopper. When you are three months before your 65th birthday, you are required to sign up for Medicare. If you miss the deadline, the government will FINE you. Does that sound like embracing to you? I have a Medicare card, but I don't use Medicare. I have insurance. I don't want Medicare. But I'll be darned if I'm going to pay those bloodsuckers a fine by refusing to sign up.

Wow....that is terrible. That stinks so bad I can smell it clear from TX to VA. I would comment further, but I think it might cross the political lines that have been drawn here.

gringo pistolero wrote:It's interesting to observe many of these complaints are coming from people who already embraced socialist medicine in the form of medicare, etc. Don't take this the wrong way because I'm not in favor of obamacare. In fact, I think it's unconstitutional like 90% or more of the federal laws on the books, despite what old people in robes say, but I think it's an interesting comment on the differences between principles and practice.

Well we are not on any govt plan and though we are not getting messed over as much as others here. (Yet), it still hurts. It still stings. If we lose our insurance which is not totally out of the question, I think we will likely look at something like medishare and then pay the fine if we need to.

sjfcontrol wrote:Sooooo... I don't get it. Is it ok now to discuss obamacare? I thought that was what closed this forum for a couple of weeks.

I am not sure, you can ask mr. Cotton. But I think if we keep it to our personal experiences of the health care and not involve the broader politics and keep it friendly it may fall into the new paradigm.

Our insurance went up $50 a month......not much till you consider that is a 50% increase. Our deductible was already rather high and it has gone up too (from 3.5 k per person to almost 4k). We pay for just about all out ordinary care out of our HSA. Even a birth would be mostly on us. We have insurance as a hedge against disaster. It is ther for if we or any of our children get seriously injured or have a serious medical problem.

We got pamphlets about all the great stuff we get for "free" now. Flu shots.....didn't want them in the first place, but if I did it would have been like $10 a shot. Birth control......did not want it...if I did it was $30 a month for the pill. There was more, but basically additional that was "free" was stuff I did not want in the first place and even if I did it was not worth the cost of the increase.