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by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:12 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

As Micheal Berry espoused on the radio yesterday and it's one thing I agree with is that the problem with Trump and some of his supporters is that they don't know how to win, they just keep attacking. It turns people off to Trump, especially prospective Republican voters. Hello! Trump won the nomination! Stop fighting with the other candidates. Focus on Hillary.

Ted Cruz did not attack Trump or say one negative thing. In fact he did the very same thing Reagan did at the RNC when Gerald Ford got the nomination. He never outright endorsed him, he laid out republican principles we should stand for.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... n_1976.ogv

http://www.westernjournalism.com/ted-cr ... manualpost
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:30 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
LSUTiger wrote:Here's Everything You Need To Know About Cruz's 'Vote Your Conscience' Speech

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7663/here ... benshapiro
The Trump Campaign knew Cruz was not going to endorse Trump, but they expected a speech to rally voters against Hillary. Trump's people didn't see the speech until two hours before Cruz spoke, but Trump allowed him to speak anyway. As Skiprr said in an earlier post, that speaks volumes about Trump.

Chas.
I think both are making calculated moves, taking calculated risks, some for the right reasons (Cruz) and some for the wrong reasons (Trump). I think Trump didn't really have a choice but to let Cruz speak at the RNC. It would have looked very bad on him not to. I think game theory 101 was at play here. I know what my rival will do, ho do I use it to my advantage? At this level, I don't think any of this didn't just happen.

I have to let him speak, and he will not endorse me. How can I make him look bad or make it work to my advantage? In this case, it's personal, so look bad was really the only option he had.

I think Trump orchestrating boos to attempt to make Cruz look bad speaks volumes about Trump.

I think sticking to his principles, the right principles, speaks volumes about Cruz.
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:43 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Here's Everything You Need To Know About Cruz's 'Vote Your Conscience' Speech

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7663/here ... benshapiro
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:30 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

twomillenium wrote:I do not expect Sen. Cruz to endorse such a person, nor should you. I do stand with Sen. Cruz's Message and will vote with my heart for the better of bad choices (my words). I will continue to support Sen. Cruz. now and in 2018 and 2020. Just the fact that Sen. Cruz did not completely destroy this person who attacked his family because it would have completely destroyed the party, makes me admire him even more.

Come November, I believe my choices are very limited and as a patriotic American citizen and I will be voting on the slowest path of destruction. I hope and pray, I am wrong and the facts of history will not repeat themselves and the person I vote for has really suddenly changed.

While my vote will be cast for Trump it will not be an endorsement of Trump but it will be a desperate vote to keep Clinton and her ilk out of office. I also understand that it is easier for those who are not as conservative to accept Trump, I am not cut of that fabric.

This post is not intended to cast dispersion on anyone nor is it intended to flame others who disagree with me. I consider all on this forum a friend until they prove themselves unworthy of friendship. I feel most of us feel this way.

Thanks for reading my rant and I think we can all agree in November that Hillary should be sent on to fulltime Grandmother duty.
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by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:29 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

fickman wrote:I already liked Cruz, and last night he elevated himself several notches in my view.

As for the pledge, first, I do think that last night's speech was supportive of Trump and upheld the pledge. More importantly, I think that pledge comes with some basic, common sense, tacit terms and conditions. The unprecedented nature and outright extremity of Trump's behavior in his personal attacks against Cruz' family would easily exempt Cruz from the obligation almost as clearly as if Trump had followed through with his hypothetical situation and shot a person on the streets of New York. I would say this even if Trump had apologized, which, of course, he hasn't.

Mr. Trump may never understand that some things - for some people - are never for sale at any price. I admire Cruz for holding to his principles and standing firm in defense of his family's honor.

I think the speech was in a way a conditional challenge to Trump - to uphold the core conservative principles and not to waiver from them, and in turn, the Party will unify behind the ideology and anybody who advances it.
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by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:28 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

locke_n_load wrote:So the actual statement made during the debates was " Senator Cruz, yes or no, you will support Donald Trump is he's the nominee?"

I think you can support someone without officially endorsing them - he did speak at the RNC, where he did garner attention, denounce democrats, and did not say anything negative about Trump.
I believe someone in Trump's camp also asked if he would help Trump with his SC appointees, and Ted said he would give input, if asked, to ensure people who uphold the Constitution are put into SCOTUS. That sounds like support to me.
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I think Cruz will no doubt work with and assist Trump to achieve all the things he talked about in his speech. And given the history of Trump's vitriol toward Cruz with the "lying Ted", calling his wife crazy and ugly, saying his father helped assassinate Kennedy and accused him of having multiple affairs and all the rest , it takes a pretty big man to even show up to speak at the RNC, pledge or no pledge. Everything he said was positive and representative of what IMHO the party and the country desperately need, to get back on message and on track.

I truly believe Ted Cruz has the best interest of the country at heart. It has been reported that Trumps own campaign at the last minute tried to threaten Cruz to endorse Trump or they would sabotaged the message of the speech by organizing some delegates to boo Cruz if he didn't out right endorse him. If everyone simply would have cheered and applauded it would have been perceived as an endorsement. So if Cruz's speech, which was pre-approved by the Trump campaign costs Trump the election, it's Trump own fault.

If I recall correctly, Trump initially said he was going to run regardless of the nomination when it wasn't yet as clear he was going to be the nominee and then when it became more apparent he was going to be he signed a pledge. How convenient.
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:12 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Does anybody really think that Ted Cruz's speech is gonna cost Trump the election? People are saying that even the VP picks are irrelevant. I agree. The only thing that matters is Trump vs Clinton. They only thing that might win or lose the election for Trump is his own words. That's the only thing that really matters or anyone will remember when they go to the voting booth.
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:29 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

bblhd672 wrote:
LSUTiger wrote:Two things that I am certain of after Cruz's speach at the RNC:

1. I am voting Trump in 2016.
2. I am voting Cruz in 2020, RNC officials believe he is going to run in 2020 whether or not there is a Trump presidency. Right now I believe he will and I support it.

Cruz may very well be running for president of the Free Republic of Texas by 2020.

I support that too! :txflag:
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:25 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Two things that I am certain of after Cruz's speach at the RNC:

1. I am voting Trump in 2016.
2. I am voting Cruz in 2020, RNC officials believe he is going to run in 2020 whether or not there is a Trump presidency. Right now I believe he will and I support it.
by LSUTiger
Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:20 am
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

bdgyeah wrote:I was very pleased that Republicans decided Ted Cruz was not their guy. When Ted talks I feel like I'm being talked at, preached to, and lectured. Already had 8 years of that. His speech and actions were completely predictable. Trump 2016........I hope.
Anyone who agrees with what he is says shouldn't feel that way at all. It's preaching to the choir. But that's what you do when you want your party to support you. Considering what he is preaching I am glad to hear it in stark contrast to what we've had to the last 7-8 years, both from democrats and the majority of republicans.
by LSUTiger
Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:23 pm
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Topic: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?
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Re: Republican Convention: Cruz supporters planning trouble?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:My vote for Trump isn't a vote for the Republican Party or the Republican candidate. It's a vote against the person who will complete the destruction of America, not merely the Second Amendment. I do not vote with blinders on, nor out of any naive loyalty to the Republican Party. There are two people running and I'm voting for the best last chance to save the country.

Chas.
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Could not have been said better or more simply and to the point. It's time to put aside political ideals and face political realities. The choice now is so amazingly clear and has been for a long time now that I don't know how people can keep droning on about voting your conscience, not voting at all, voting 3rd party so it gains support in the future ridiculousness and whatever excuse you want to come up with not to vote for Trump. The stakes are too high and every vote, whether cast or not, counts.

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