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speedsix wrote:...them that gets it...gets it...them that don't...don't...it's a good thing in this world today we've got some folks that gets it...or we'd all be sitting ducks...all through history there've been those who could recognize evil and deal with it decisively, and those who would give one more inch...well just one more...well maybe one more...till evil owns it all, instead of doing the dirty work of stopping evil cold...this argument won't be solved here...those who know will continue to do what must be done...those who don't will continue to criticise and second guess them...while enjoying the safety that's been provided them at great cost...

Cobra Medic wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:Hmmm you know if a mugger is standing in front of me and has already killed my neighbors and is now me telling me "I am going to kill you, your husband, your children, your parents" with a gun outstretched to do what he has just said he would do, then I am permitted to end the threat to my family. He was doing precisely that on a national level. I cry no tears for him, he was a snake in the grass and earned the hell-fire missal he got in his lap.

Oh, please. At the moment he was killed he was riding in a car. He wasn't pointing a weapon at the Americans who fired the missiles. He was a probable future threat, no argument there, but he was not an immediate threat. A more realistic domestic example is the gang leader who is connected to the thugs who killed your neighbor but he's miles away from you. So you go to his territory and gun him down because you reasonably believe he might be planning to kill you at some time in the future. That's essentially what America did in Yemen last week.

I'm not denying both the al Qaeda member and the gang member are dirt bags. What I am saying is if the killing in Yemen was moral, then it's moral for American citizens to hunt down and kill violent gang members. It's right for those guys in NM and AZ to ambush drug runners coming in from Mexico. It's good for a parent to go after a pedophile who molested her kid but got off on a technicality. In summary, it's moral to be a vigilante when due process can't (or won't) give you justice.

No double standards.

apostate wrote:

jocat54 wrote:The guy was in a war zone

When did the United States invade Yemen?

Heck, last time I checked a map, it din't even share a border with Iraq or Afghanistan. So there goes the Cambodia or Laos anaolgy from the Viet Nam war.