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Countryside wrote:

puma guy wrote:Coming Soon! "What is a holster belt?"

See how perfect my post was??? It even covers your question!!

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I told you back then you won but you didn't believe me.

Kkpsiknl wrote:I don't think I have the time to read all of the post. So what's the answer?

Carry in a decent holster and move on. IMO

thetexan wrote: <snip>

No, under normal circumstances no will will notice the difference between a belt and paddle holster, of course. It's when a LEO starts taking careful interest in you, your gun, and your holster, that it might be an issue. I would think that at that very moment you would want to be in compliance especially if there is an accepted difference between the two.......as the holster industry seems to think there is!!!!!

And yes, if I don't feel comfortable with the ambiguity I will use a belt holster. I would prefer the paddle holster, and thus the question.

tex

When I do a google search for "belt holster" I get everything returned: IWB, OWB, Paddles, slides, cowboy, thigh, fanny pack, sneaky pete, etc. I don't understand where the industry thinks that they have declared anything.

Here is a link where Guns&Ammo thinks paddle holsters are belt holsters. They may not be judge and jury, but I'll take them as a character witness any day. They agree that a belt is not required to wear a paddle, but, they refer to paddles as belt holsters repeatedly and in the title. http://www.handgunsmag.com/gear-accesso ... t-holster/

Let me ask the question a different way. Is an IWB holster with a clip not a belt holster? It doesn't use a loop. In fact I don't know of a IWB holster that uses loops. They use snaps and clips. Yes, I am sure someone can find an IWB that uses loops, but they would not be the norm. In terms of physical connection to the belt it is a paddle holster with the "paddle" (clip) on the outboard side of the holster instead of the inboard side. A paddle is just, IMO, a really big clip on the inboard side. I would be shocked beyond shocked if an IWB holster using a clip instead of a loop or a paddle holster were ever declared not a belt holster.

Based on the article above, you might could argue that a paddle worn without a belt is suspect. I just don't see how a paddle with a belt could ever be suspect.

Next, we could start a betting pool on how soon before anyone is arrested for OCing with the wrong holster.

C-dub wrote:Six pages on "What is a belt holster"
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That is funny, right there.

WildBill wrote:

goose wrote:All of this does beg the question, how long before we see the first holster marketed as "Texas Legal Belt Holster. You define it; we refine it. Only the finest grain leathers used."

Here it is!

Narrator (Ralphie as an adult): Schwartz created a slight breach of etiquette by skipping the triple dare and going right for the throat!

Bill, you went straight to Chuck! (That is a nice rig.)

All of this does beg the question, how long before we see the first holster marketed as "Texas Legal Belt Holster. You define it; we refine it. Only the finest grain leathers used."

Countryside wrote:

goose wrote:

Countryside wrote:I...I can't believe this!
All of you...ALL of you are WRONG!

THIS is a "belt holster" ....

It's a belt....holster.

That is kind of awkwardly amazing. It seems like it is missing something, but all of the parts of a slide holster are there. I think this wins.

You're right! It IS missing something....security. This is (in my worthless opinion) a retention accident looking for a place to happen.

I doubt I would buy one for myself, for the exact reason you give. But compared to many of the slide holsters, it looks as functional as most. It might be more convincing if it had some tooling on it to grip the trigger guard a bit.

Countryside wrote:I...I can't believe this!
All of you...ALL of you are WRONG!

THIS is a "belt holster" ....

It's a belt....holster.

That is kind of awkwardly amazing. It seems like it is missing something, but all of the parts of a slide holster are there. I think this wins.

JP171 wrote: really? just really? I'm so sorry for you

Did I miss sarcasm or are you really, really the authority? My family feels sorry for me all the time.

JP171 wrote:sorry guys, but what I see is a lot of self rationalization of false hopes or trying to justify by saying something is ambiguous when its not. by reading the standard recognized definition of belt holster and even looking at pictures of belt holsters the normally used definition is that the holster MUST attach directly to the belt worn about the waist and have integral belt loops without other attachments and no other way to attach said holster such as paddle or clips. Shoulder isn't really being discussed but my belief is that it must be the usual and customary type of shoulder holster.
feel free to armchair this to death, oh yea you've all already done this and rationalized everything you want to do no matter what the customary and usual definition.....isn't there another thread in the OC area that someone is doing the same thing? tomato or tomaahhhto, its all the same red fruit. so of course do as you choose and make that horse get up and pull the wagon, but its still dead

Just to be contrarian, your definition is no better than anyone else's until it has been decided in a court of law for precedence. Which dictionary, legal or regular Webster type, said that paddles weren't allowed?