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- Sat May 28, 2011 1:47 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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God bless this forum, and the SMART, WELL THOUGHT comments that are posted.
- Fri May 27, 2011 4:20 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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LoL @ Veggie. Eloquent :)
Angelo State University, thats where all the
is at. And if that isn't bad enough,
teaches a class on campus on how to
people. All the booze makes
a daily occurence, so imagine if they had guns instead of just fists! I hope your
because i'm no
...I
the constitution, and it plainly says that guns kill people... that whole "bear arms" thing is a huge misinterpretation. It was referring to the animal's arms. The right to keep Bears' arms to hang on our wall... too bad PETA doesn't like us to enlighten folks on that.
Angelo State University, thats where all the







- Fri May 27, 2011 12:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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Re: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
Veggie--My bad, I'm sorry for blaming the liberals. I got a little frustrated.
Thanks for the support though y'all. I actually sat in the auditorium at my school (ASU) during a presentation and Q&A about campus carry. I was ... amazed at how ignorant folks are. I hate to bash college students, but some of them are the worst advocates against campus carry I have seen because of a couple of reasons:
1. They are young
2. They have little or NO idea of what CHL is, or the responsibilities and reprocussions of using it improperly
I am young @ 25 years old, but after 6 years military I feel quite a bit more mature than most my age. Most of the kids in that auditorium with me were no older than 20. The questions they were asking were:
"Why would we put guns in the hands of kids who are no doubt going to party all the time"
-no alcohol with CHL while carrying, we all know this
"Wouldn't the fact that having more guns on campus be more dangerous"
-I can't even reply to this without being a sarcastic jerk, so I didn't
"what if I had a CHL, and I were to get assaulted on campus but the guy took my gun away from me? I just made my situation worse."
-My wife actually wispered to me, "I would take that risk. I'd go down fighting before I ever let some -expletive- touch me like that.
It's a losing battle because we are faced with an opposition of blind ignorance.
Thanks for the support though y'all. I actually sat in the auditorium at my school (ASU) during a presentation and Q&A about campus carry. I was ... amazed at how ignorant folks are. I hate to bash college students, but some of them are the worst advocates against campus carry I have seen because of a couple of reasons:
1. They are young
2. They have little or NO idea of what CHL is, or the responsibilities and reprocussions of using it improperly
I am young @ 25 years old, but after 6 years military I feel quite a bit more mature than most my age. Most of the kids in that auditorium with me were no older than 20. The questions they were asking were:
"Why would we put guns in the hands of kids who are no doubt going to party all the time"
-no alcohol with CHL while carrying, we all know this
"Wouldn't the fact that having more guns on campus be more dangerous"
-I can't even reply to this without being a sarcastic jerk, so I didn't
"what if I had a CHL, and I were to get assaulted on campus but the guy took my gun away from me? I just made my situation worse."
-My wife actually wispered to me, "I would take that risk. I'd go down fighting before I ever let some -expletive- touch me like that.
It's a losing battle because we are faced with an opposition of blind ignorance.
- Thu May 26, 2011 8:51 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
- Replies: 56
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Yep. Everyone who owns a firearm wants to murder everyone at some point in time. Folks who own firearms and a conceal carry license are even more apt to do so because they actually carry firearms with them. Solid reasoning, with a dose of sarcasm.
- Thu May 26, 2011 4:31 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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snatchel wrote:Yeah, it's easy to argue against gun rights when libs take themselves out of the context.
On second thought, I think there is a Liberal Gun Control badge that is similar to the concealed handgun badge..think it has a donkey on it! lolol..thats what keeps em safe, duh. No wonder they are safe!
I'm curious if anyone will get the donkey badge joke. I have faith.
- Thu May 26, 2011 4:27 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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Yeah, it's easy to argue against gun rights when libs take themselves out of the context.
On second thought, I think there is a Liberal Gun Control badge that is similar to the concealed handgun badge..think it has a donkey on it! lolol..thats what keeps em safe, duh. No wonder they are safe!
On second thought, I think there is a Liberal Gun Control badge that is similar to the concealed handgun badge..think it has a donkey on it! lolol..thats what keeps em safe, duh. No wonder they are safe!
- Thu May 26, 2011 4:10 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
- Replies: 56
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Guess we gotta keep the fight up dont we? I cringe at every news story about some CHL'er somewhere, even out of Texas, doing something stupid.
- Thu May 26, 2011 3:59 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
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CONVERSATION WITH LIBERAL BUDDY ON CHL
My buddy over in California who I served with and I had this conversation via txt messaging earlier. I'm editing for PG13, but you should all get the gist. It all started with a facebook comment on Texas Campus Carry laws.....
Caleb--Apparently Campus Carry passed through Texas Senate, guess we will see what happens with it.
Cerda-What the heck do you want to carry a gun to school for?
Caleb--Things are different outside of California, if criminals can carry here, we think the good citizens should be able to as well.
Cerda-Thats friggin stupid dude
Caleb--Some say so, I disagree. It's debatable and multi-faceted discussion, so feelings differ. But there are only a few other states besides California that almost definately will not issue concealed handgun licenses to folks of clear mind, morals, and convictions and also legal age. If someone like that chooses to carry for his/her and their families safety, I see nothing wrong with it and fully support it.
Cerda-So what happens when said person has a bad day that throws him over the edge?
Caleb--The same thing that happens when someone who is unlicensed has a bad day. Point is, licensed or not, if you want to shoot up your town/block/house/walmart-whatever, your going to do it. And licensed or not, if you want to carry a gun there is nothing stopping you. I just choose to do it legally under constitutional and Texas law.
Cerda-So your solution is to have more people with guns? So now someone who gets angry but doesn't own a weapon just has to sucker punch you and then they are armed.
Caleb--Our laws only allow us to carry concealed, so no one would know I had it unless I showed them...or something were to happen where I pulled it in self defense. Also, anyone can get a gun if they want one. If your not legally able to own one, it's as easy to buy off the black market as marijuana.
Cerda-Glad I dont live in Texas, thats a stupid solution
Caleb--It's not a solution, it's simply a matter of protecting ourselves and our families. The same reasoning behind carrying pepper spray or a knife applies to a concealed handgun. Crime isn't something I am trying to solve, I'm just doing everything in my power to stand up for myself and my family if need be.
Cerda-Whatever man.
I'm sure I could have done better, but I'm not as witty as some of y'all are. But the fact is, this is what we are up againt. Liberal minded folks can't get past the "guns kill people.." Ugh.
Caleb--Apparently Campus Carry passed through Texas Senate, guess we will see what happens with it.
Cerda-What the heck do you want to carry a gun to school for?
Caleb--Things are different outside of California, if criminals can carry here, we think the good citizens should be able to as well.
Cerda-Thats friggin stupid dude
Caleb--Some say so, I disagree. It's debatable and multi-faceted discussion, so feelings differ. But there are only a few other states besides California that almost definately will not issue concealed handgun licenses to folks of clear mind, morals, and convictions and also legal age. If someone like that chooses to carry for his/her and their families safety, I see nothing wrong with it and fully support it.
Cerda-So what happens when said person has a bad day that throws him over the edge?
Caleb--The same thing that happens when someone who is unlicensed has a bad day. Point is, licensed or not, if you want to shoot up your town/block/house/walmart-whatever, your going to do it. And licensed or not, if you want to carry a gun there is nothing stopping you. I just choose to do it legally under constitutional and Texas law.
Cerda-So your solution is to have more people with guns? So now someone who gets angry but doesn't own a weapon just has to sucker punch you and then they are armed.
Caleb--Our laws only allow us to carry concealed, so no one would know I had it unless I showed them...or something were to happen where I pulled it in self defense. Also, anyone can get a gun if they want one. If your not legally able to own one, it's as easy to buy off the black market as marijuana.
Cerda-Glad I dont live in Texas, thats a stupid solution
Caleb--It's not a solution, it's simply a matter of protecting ourselves and our families. The same reasoning behind carrying pepper spray or a knife applies to a concealed handgun. Crime isn't something I am trying to solve, I'm just doing everything in my power to stand up for myself and my family if need be.
Cerda-Whatever man.
I'm sure I could have done better, but I'm not as witty as some of y'all are. But the fact is, this is what we are up againt. Liberal minded folks can't get past the "guns kill people.." Ugh.