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by JP171
Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:32 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night
Replies: 68
Views: 9625

Re: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night

OB Juan, I am not saying the store owner was in the right, if it went down as some say he should be on his way to a long jail sentence, it is illegal to execute someone on your own initiative, so yep gotta let the courts decide what really happened, and the other, done said what I think not gonna beat a horse that ain't gonna respond, that would make me insane by the definition of this " you keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result is insanity" "rlol"
by JP171
Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:22 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night
Replies: 68
Views: 9625

Re: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night

sorry , but your already a victim, you state you'll let someone rob you blind before using force the only way you'll use force is if they are going to hurt your family and that is creating an artificial distinction and that makes you a victim. I mean come on its only a little rape, its only a little blood from being punched, yep your a victim


it isn't what the guy was stealing but that he was stealing at all period, and no matter the course of action he took if his gang was a REAL HOODRAT GANG then he will be in fear regardless
by JP171
Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:04 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night
Replies: 68
Views: 9625

Re: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night

jmra wrote:
JP171 wrote:there probably is much that hasn't been released by the police, the story saying that the owner shot the suspect in the head and not saying that several shots were fired indicates to me that one shot was fired and it was intentionally in the head. One shot to the head is under almost any states indicative understanding of the law prima facie evidence of intent to kill therefore MURDER a person, not to stop the commission of a crime, had the suspect had a bullet resistant vest on then the charge most likely would not have happened.

Also as I understand and instructors can correct me if I am wrong, but DPS teaches instructors that head shot on the target are automatic fails
http://www.christianpost.com/news/rodne ... eo-105645/
"51-year-old Duve shot him several times, including once in the head."

Seems Duve may have had a temper:
"The neighbor also said that when visiting the store, Duve had been in "a scary rage" on several occasions."

Perhaps the police believe that Duve became enraged, injured the gang member with a couple shots, and then executed him with a shot to the head. This would indeed be murder.
I have no idea if this actually happened or not, but I do know that it is way too early to say this was a justified shooting.
I have stated many times on this forum that I would not shoot someone solely for the purpose of recovering property. As KeithB stated earlier, I sure wouldn't shoot someone taking a 12 pack of beer.

No matter how this turns out this guy is in a world of hurt. If the dead guys gang is any kind of a real gang, this guy and his whole family will live in constant fear of retaliation. Would you put your family through that over a 12 pack of beer?
This guy may get off, but he will always be an idiot
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so fear is a reason to NOT protect yourself? your loved ones? your property? sorry dude but you can't live in fear, if you do your already beaten down and a victim
by JP171
Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:06 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night
Replies: 68
Views: 9625

Re: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night

MasterOfNone wrote:
JP171 wrote:Also as I understand and instructors can correct me if I am wrong, but DPS teaches instructors that head shot on the target are automatic fails
Head shots are three points each.
LOL yea I wish, the classes I have taken the instructor told us that a head shot was an automatic fail I have taken 3 classes total for CHL and many more for military and Qualification for Military
by JP171
Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night
Replies: 68
Views: 9625

Re: Texas store owner arrested after killing robber at night

there probably is much that hasn't been released by the police, the story saying that the owner shot the suspect in the head and not saying that several shots were fired indicates to me that one shot was fired and it was intentionally in the head. One shot to the head is under almost any states indicative understanding of the law prima facie evidence of intent to kill therefore MURDER a person, not to stop the commission of a crime, had the suspect had a bullet resistant vest on then the charge most likely would not have happened.

Also as I understand and instructors can correct me if I am wrong, but DPS teaches instructors that head shot on the target are automatic fails

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