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seamusTX wrote:Let's try this again:

No one posting in this thread knows anything about this situation. The e-mail messages that are under discussion were put on a web site by an anonymous group of self-admitted criminal hackers and anarchists. There is no chain or custody, no credibility.

Anyone on this forum could get the treatment that Joe Horn got, including demonstrations in front of your house, media pundits calling for your hide to be tanned after you no longer needed it, and having to move permanently to an undisclosed location.

This is a similar internet mob scene over a much less serious offense, if any offense at all was committed.

Here endeth the lesson.

- Jim

Hear, hear...

That's pretty much what I said... It's all alleged and the entity that committed the crime has no credibility until proven otherwise. We all have been so "conditioned" to be aghast at anything that may be perceived as non PC that there is an almost instant vitriolic response and the call for someone's head on a platter. This man has (by some of the previous and initial posts) been tried convicted and punishment offered up for something that hasn't even been proven. Hearsay at best ... This mob mentality was fast and brutal based on supposed correspondence from a man who by all accounts known publicly previous to this had been a upstanding member of society.

I would hope if someone accused me that I would at least be afforded the opportunity to give my say before I was tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

Now, if he did in fact write those emails I still don't see where it is a crime ... Unprofessional and bias maybe but as much as I may not agree... it's not a crime to be prejudice... YET.

Just sayin'

seamusTX wrote:For those who are ready to end a man's career if not string him up, what proof do you have that he committed a crime?

If he did not commit a crime, what offense against morality or human decency did he commit?

How do you know this?

Hint: Blogs in and of themselves prove nothing.

- Jim

If I personally go straight off the excerpts annotated in the story then I would surmise he has some racial and insensitivity issues that may or may not need to be addressed. (they're his personal feelings and potentially a nearsighted interpretation of the general public) but based on what I read there was nothing illegal or that would warrant disciplinary action unless there is a policy that he specifically (knowingly) violated. Is what he "allegedly" wrote in an email bigoted and insensitive?... Sure, but it's his prerogative to have those feelings and thoughts. Do I agree? In general, no...but again... It's his right to be close-minded.
How many times have any of us thought, after knowing someone was incarcerated or killed for committing a crime thought or said to a friend, Well, they got exactly what they deserved. Just not dumb enough to say in in a company email.

IF... BIG...IF he wrote those things then he was basically stupid for doing it on a work server and work email. Being stupid usually isn't a crime... Although it sometimes precludes the behavior but in this case with limited information it just doesn't appear he did anything other than be VERY non P.C.

As an officer of the law (if this is his personal views) who knows how this effected the arrest and prosecution of suspects.

But that is something that is not anything that is measurable.

*EDIT* the better half just informed me ... In the article she read there is some belief that the emails in question may be from his private Yahoo acct that he accessed from work. If this IS the case it changes the whole deal...