Good news from todays response from Bass Pro Shops Corporate Management.
They said it is fine for CHL's to carry in their Katy Mills Mall location - Not a problem !
Regarding the Mall itself:
Still waiting to hear from Simon Company regarding my email to them, and from my leaving a message and business cards with the local Mall Manager - Still have not heard from either one.
Will post response(s) - if and when I get them.
Thanks, gamboolman...
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- Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:18 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Katy Mills Mall & Bass Pro Shops
- Replies: 29
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- Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:23 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Katy Mills Mall & Bass Pro Shops
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Re: Katy Mills Mall & Bass Pro Shops
Mr. Mike1951,
The secretary at the office said Simon and I did not look at the cards close.
I was not clear, the card I got says:
The Mills - A Simon Company
So it must still be the same owner as yawl have been having ongoing discussions with???
I have received a standard automated form response from SIMON, and have posted it below:
Thank you for your message!
We appreciate your interest and feedback. A representative from Simon will respond to your question or comments as soon as possible.
Simon.com
Simon Property Group, Inc.
225 West Washington Street
Indianapolis, IN 46204
I will post the response as soon as I get it.
Thanks, gamboolman....
The secretary at the office said Simon and I did not look at the cards close.
I was not clear, the card I got says:
The Mills - A Simon Company
So it must still be the same owner as yawl have been having ongoing discussions with???
I have received a standard automated form response from SIMON, and have posted it below:
Thank you for your message!
We appreciate your interest and feedback. A representative from Simon will respond to your question or comments as soon as possible.
Simon.com
Simon Property Group, Inc.
225 West Washington Street
Indianapolis, IN 46204
I will post the response as soon as I get it.
Thanks, gamboolman....
- Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:26 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Katy Mills Mall & Bass Pro Shops
- Replies: 29
- Views: 8075
Katy Mills Mall & Bass Pro Shops
The wife & I went to Katy Mill Mall yesterday. Specifically to go the Bose store. Had to take my gun off which I did as the Mall is 30.06 posted !
I know I should know this stuff but I did not know the Mall was 30.06 posted - but is the parking lot also posted?? I did not see any signage.
We live up North towards The Woodlands and I know that this topic has probably been beat to death, but I did not know/remember/realize - anyhow I sent the Mall property owner the following email that is attached down below, and I went to Bass Pro Shops and they had a non-legal sign up.
Please see #1 below for Bass Pro Shops info, and #2 for the Mall Info.
Thanks, gamboolman & gamboolgal....
#1) - Bass Pro Shops - Katy Mills Mall Location:
We did walk the Mall as I wanted to go to Bass Pro Shops. At Bass Pro Shops I saw a sign ( not legal ) saying that all guns had to be checked - not a problem for me that day since I had left my gun in the truck to be in compliance with the Mall 30.06 sign.
Anyway I asked one of the clerks if the sign was applicable to CHL's?? He said it was and I questioned him to be sure he understood I was talking about legal CHL holders coming into Bass Pro Shops from the outside entrance Not from inside the Mall.
He said "Yes - it is to protect the customers"
I wrote Bass Pro Shops and got a corporate response saying that Bass Pro Shops does require current lawfull CHL Holders to disarm - but they can't comment on the Mall Policy.
I have asked them to clarify about entering the Bass Pro Shops from the parking lot and not inside the Mall? Still waiting on response.
#2: Katy Mills Mall - Operated by Simon Corp:
But for the Katy Mills Mall that is operated by the Simon Corp., I went to the Mall Office and left my business card and one of the Tx State Rifle Rifle Association Cards, that says No-Guns - No-Money for the Manager along with a message informing him I and my family would not return to the Mall due to their policy.
I sent the following to The Simon Corp today. Have not got a response yet. Will let the forum know when/if I get a response from Simon.
" Gentlemen,
My wife and I went to Katy Mills Mall for the 1st time yesterday. We live in Spring, Texas real close to the Woodlands Mall and that is where my wife and family go all of the time.
However, we went to the Katy Mills Mall because of a particular store, Bose. While there I bought what I wanted and then we walked the mall and spent ~$750 for the afternoon. We were very favorably impressed with the Mall. Our daughter is a Sr. in High School and a member of the dance team and my wife was saying how the girls on the Dance Team would love your mall.
Unfortunately - no one from my family will return to Katy Mills Mall and we will tell everyone we know that we do not recommend your Katy Mill Mall location.
The reason is that the Mall is posted with a 30.06 sign prohibiting lawfully licensed Concealed Handgun Permit Holders from entering the Mall while carrying their Concealed Weapon.
We respect your right to manage and run your property as you choose. I did not carry in the Mall and I will not, because I will not ever return to the Katy Mills Mall location ever again, nor will any of my family members.
We would love to hear from your Senior Management as to why you choose to prohibit lawfully licensed CCW from entering your property. Does your management not understand that CHL holders in the State of Texas have been through a rigorous background check, and are overall honest law abiding citizens?? I wonder if your management really comprehends this?
Thanks, Mr. & Mrs. gamboolman.... "
I know I should know this stuff but I did not know the Mall was 30.06 posted - but is the parking lot also posted?? I did not see any signage.
We live up North towards The Woodlands and I know that this topic has probably been beat to death, but I did not know/remember/realize - anyhow I sent the Mall property owner the following email that is attached down below, and I went to Bass Pro Shops and they had a non-legal sign up.
Please see #1 below for Bass Pro Shops info, and #2 for the Mall Info.
Thanks, gamboolman & gamboolgal....
#1) - Bass Pro Shops - Katy Mills Mall Location:
We did walk the Mall as I wanted to go to Bass Pro Shops. At Bass Pro Shops I saw a sign ( not legal ) saying that all guns had to be checked - not a problem for me that day since I had left my gun in the truck to be in compliance with the Mall 30.06 sign.
Anyway I asked one of the clerks if the sign was applicable to CHL's?? He said it was and I questioned him to be sure he understood I was talking about legal CHL holders coming into Bass Pro Shops from the outside entrance Not from inside the Mall.
He said "Yes - it is to protect the customers"
I wrote Bass Pro Shops and got a corporate response saying that Bass Pro Shops does require current lawfull CHL Holders to disarm - but they can't comment on the Mall Policy.
I have asked them to clarify about entering the Bass Pro Shops from the parking lot and not inside the Mall? Still waiting on response.
#2: Katy Mills Mall - Operated by Simon Corp:
But for the Katy Mills Mall that is operated by the Simon Corp., I went to the Mall Office and left my business card and one of the Tx State Rifle Rifle Association Cards, that says No-Guns - No-Money for the Manager along with a message informing him I and my family would not return to the Mall due to their policy.
I sent the following to The Simon Corp today. Have not got a response yet. Will let the forum know when/if I get a response from Simon.
" Gentlemen,
My wife and I went to Katy Mills Mall for the 1st time yesterday. We live in Spring, Texas real close to the Woodlands Mall and that is where my wife and family go all of the time.
However, we went to the Katy Mills Mall because of a particular store, Bose. While there I bought what I wanted and then we walked the mall and spent ~$750 for the afternoon. We were very favorably impressed with the Mall. Our daughter is a Sr. in High School and a member of the dance team and my wife was saying how the girls on the Dance Team would love your mall.
Unfortunately - no one from my family will return to Katy Mills Mall and we will tell everyone we know that we do not recommend your Katy Mill Mall location.
The reason is that the Mall is posted with a 30.06 sign prohibiting lawfully licensed Concealed Handgun Permit Holders from entering the Mall while carrying their Concealed Weapon.
We respect your right to manage and run your property as you choose. I did not carry in the Mall and I will not, because I will not ever return to the Katy Mills Mall location ever again, nor will any of my family members.
We would love to hear from your Senior Management as to why you choose to prohibit lawfully licensed CCW from entering your property. Does your management not understand that CHL holders in the State of Texas have been through a rigorous background check, and are overall honest law abiding citizens?? I wonder if your management really comprehends this?
Thanks, Mr. & Mrs. gamboolman.... "