NO more FGC for me!
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NO more FGC for me!
I had enough with Frisco Gun Club.
I am done with FGC, I requested a full refund of my membership and got my refund receipt before I left.
Short story, I had 4 guests with me, who would like be introduced to shooting. We were assigned a single lane.
Then 50 mins later on the lane, were warned to wrap up and leave because other shooters are waiting. I refused to leave. It was not fair to 5-shooters to be assigned on a single lane and then ask us to leave.
FGC went from a premiere gun club of Collin County to sketchy place, run-down range with idling lanes due lack of repairs. I was on lane 15 and 16 was down due to unrepaired target shuttle.
I am done with FGC, I requested a full refund of my membership and got my refund receipt before I left.
Short story, I had 4 guests with me, who would like be introduced to shooting. We were assigned a single lane.
Then 50 mins later on the lane, were warned to wrap up and leave because other shooters are waiting. I refused to leave. It was not fair to 5-shooters to be assigned on a single lane and then ask us to leave.
FGC went from a premiere gun club of Collin County to sketchy place, run-down range with idling lanes due lack of repairs. I was on lane 15 and 16 was down due to unrepaired target shuttle.
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Re: NO more FGC for me!
According to their website regular members pay half price range fees, while Platinum and VIP pay no range fee. Does your membership allow level require you to pay the range fees? If so why would they run someone off, in this case you and your friends, if they're paying hourly rates?
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Run down range? It's a year old; maybe 2.
I don't know never been. My range charges by the day not the hour.
I don't know never been. My range charges by the day not the hour.
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I am Platinum "founding" member. I pay no range fee, and I can stay as much as I need. On many occasions I was asked to leave on time limits that should not apply for members. As for guests, I can use any of the 6 FREE guests cards per year. From 2012 to 2016 Those guests cards were good for day-long range entry for either Pistol or rifle range. In 2017, the cards are good for 1-hr only on any pistol lane and non-weekend days. As per 2018, the guest cards are eliminated from Platinum benefits.puma guy wrote:According to their website regular members pay half price range fees, while Platinum and VIP pay no range fee. Does your membership allow level require you to pay the range fees? If so why would they run someone off, in this case you and your friends, if they're paying hourly rates?
We were able to shoot shotguns, no more.
We were able to use a Chronograph for rifle load development, no more.
We were able to use 6-guest cards per year, no more.
We were able as Platinum members, to stay past 1-hr limit with no issues, no more.
We were able to use working target shuttles no more. Now we have to fight for the reminder of the working ones.
Enough with mistreatment of your members, favoring walk-in payers
Beiruty,
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Re: NO more FGC for me!
It is 6-yrs old range, the last 3, they stopped repairing their lanes. In fact, I started complaining about lack of repairs form year 2.Bruin98 wrote:Run down range? It's a year old; maybe 2.
I don't know never been. My range charges by the day not the hour.
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Re: NO more FGC for me!
It appears they are on the way down. Maybe a godsend you got your money back before they go defunct.Beiruty wrote:I am Platinum "founding" member. I pay no range fee, and I can stay as much as I need. On many occasions I was asked to leave on time limits that should not apply for members. As for guests, I can use any of the 6 FREE guests cards per year. From 2012 to 2016 Those guests cards were good for day-long range entry for either Pistol or rifle range. In 2017, the cards are good for 1-hr only on any pistol lane and non-weekend days. As per 2018, the guest cards are eliminated from Platinum benefits.puma guy wrote:According to their website regular members pay half price range fees, while Platinum and VIP pay no range fee. Does your membership allow level require you to pay the range fees? If so why would they run someone off, in this case you and your friends, if they're paying hourly rates?
We were able to shoot shotguns, no more.
We were able to use a Chronograph for rifle load development, no more.
We were able to use 6-guest cards per year, no more.
We were able as Platinum members, to stay past 1-hr limit with no issues, no more.
We were able to use working target shuttles no more. Now we have to fight for the reminder of the working ones.
Enough with mistreatment of your members, favoring walk-in payers
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Re: NO more FGC for me!
No surprise to me. Based on how they submarined a friend of mine trying to open a range in McKinney. Bunch of cut-throats. Never been, never will.
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I've only been a member for around 6 months, so I don't have any past history to compare to. So far I've not had any issues with them. The only 2 experiences that I've had that would be considered note worthy were one good and one not so good. The bad one really was the instructor for my LTC class.. I didn't appreciate wasting 45 minutes of my time hawking LTC insurance during the class.. The good one was when I was at the counter and they were finding 2 lanes for me, the guy told me that he wanted to be sure as a Platinum member that I took precedent over the cash customers who only come once in a while...
I've read online yelp reviews and I have seen others with some of the same complaints as the OP. But I just wanted to share my personal experiences as well.
On a side note, I have the opportunity to become a member of an outdoor range. It's about 1/2 price per year of FGC and I am free to pretty much do whatever I want... Holster draw, quick fire, tactical shooting, etc... My only issues is that it's at least 45 minutes away and I'm not crazy about being outside in cold or wet weather... I try to get to the range about 4 times per month so that would probably reduce my trips and I hate to do that... I guess I could get a membership at both, but then that would seriously eat into my ammo cash.... OH THE DELIMA OF IT ALL....
I've read online yelp reviews and I have seen others with some of the same complaints as the OP. But I just wanted to share my personal experiences as well.
On a side note, I have the opportunity to become a member of an outdoor range. It's about 1/2 price per year of FGC and I am free to pretty much do whatever I want... Holster draw, quick fire, tactical shooting, etc... My only issues is that it's at least 45 minutes away and I'm not crazy about being outside in cold or wet weather... I try to get to the range about 4 times per month so that would probably reduce my trips and I hate to do that... I guess I could get a membership at both, but then that would seriously eat into my ammo cash.... OH THE DELIMA OF IT ALL....
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Re: NO more FGC for me!
I had a similar experience. Earlier this year, a friend who also is a Platinum Founding Member invited me to FGC for a shooting session. We each brought several handgun. The range was not busy at all - there were several unoccupied lanes either side of us. After an hour, a range officer came by and informed us that our time was up and we had to pack up and leave. My buddy said he was going to complain to management about it - I don't know if he did and what the results were.m I'll stick with my Bullet Trap membership. Always treated well there, and I know what to expect. Oddly enough, same ownership between FGC and BT, but I've never had any heartburn at BT. YMMV.
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I am a member of an outdoor range and there are good and bad when it comes to pistols. Being outside, the noise is less since you don't have walls bouncing sound back at you. Indoor ranges generally have better lighting so if you are shooting a pistol for accuracy, the sights can really stand out well against the target with a well lit range. The weather just gives more challenges and it also means few if any other people will be at the range.
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I realize this thread is from December but wanted to add in that my experience with them was VERY similar to this. I have even been asked to "wrap it up" after an hour when shooting by myself and my membership is suppose to be zero range fees. Truth is, the fees are still not "free". You are paying them up front in your membership fees. I was done with them after the umpteenth time they treated me like I was imposing on them to use a range for more than an hour. I was one of the first to join, even before they had officially opened but longevity means very little to them.Beiruty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:50 pm I had enough with Frisco Gun Club.
I am done with FGC, I requested a full refund of my membership and got my refund receipt before I left.
Short story, I had 4 guests with me, who would like be introduced to shooting. We were assigned a single lane.
Then 50 mins later on the lane, were warned to wrap up and leave because other shooters are waiting. I refused to leave. It was not fair to 5-shooters to be assigned on a single lane and then ask us to leave.
FGC went from a premiere gun club of Collin County to sketchy place, run-down range with idling lanes due lack of repairs. I was on lane 15 and 16 was down due to unrepaired target shuttle.
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I just don’t really like gun ranges at all, I’m way happier in the back yard by myself or with a few buddies. I realize everyone doesn’t get that luxury though. Mind you I worked at a gun range for a year or so, I just really can’t bring myself to go to noisy gun ranges with rude employees that think they are GI Joe and know way more than everyone around them. Also I hate having guns pointed at me which is just about constant these days in my experience.
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I also quit FGC. I was a charter member, but they are not i terested in shooters; they want newbies, so they can sell them guns and classes and headsets and tactical clothing. They oversold their capacity, then stopped customer service. They are just salesmen.
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I can believe it.skeathley wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:23 pm I also quit FGC. I was a charter member, but they are not i terested in shooters; they want newbies, so they can sell them guns and classes and headsets and tactical clothing. They oversold their capacity, then stopped customer service. They are just salesmen.
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I've been a founding member too. The one that comes with a free automatic rifle rental on your birthday. We've not had any problems and I've been there at least 6 times in the last 3 weeks. I have had the RO inform us our time is up, but typically on the rifle range.
Although, as I type this, I remembered yesterday they had a wait list for pistol & we weren't in the mood for waiting so we left after having just walked off the rifle range. Also, the air conditioning on the rifle range has been kaput for 3-4wks. Walking in yesterday, I forgot to ask if they had completed the repairs they said they'd finish a week ago. As we opened the door, we notice TWO GIANT industrial portable AC units. It helped, but one was still blowing air at 94deg per the digital readout.
Although, as I type this, I remembered yesterday they had a wait list for pistol & we weren't in the mood for waiting so we left after having just walked off the rifle range. Also, the air conditioning on the rifle range has been kaput for 3-4wks. Walking in yesterday, I forgot to ask if they had completed the repairs they said they'd finish a week ago. As we opened the door, we notice TWO GIANT industrial portable AC units. It helped, but one was still blowing air at 94deg per the digital readout.
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