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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:33 pm
Paladin wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm Kentucky is KY. If the officers announced their presence, I am not sure how the home owner can claim they did not know it was the cops. This one should get interesting. I wonder if the cops had their body cams running. I do worry about the "no knock" warrants for this very reason.
The officer's knocking and announcing their presence is a fact in dispute. With the known fact that the officers had a warrant for a bogus address and an apparent bogus sighting of a car... this sounds like an incident similar to what happened in Houston. An officer lied and/or manufactured evidence to get the warrant... and allegedly did a poor job executing the warrant. In any event it was a bad raid with an unnecessary death.
If the raid took place at 1:30AM, it is quite likely that the residents didn't hear anything the officers may have said while entering. (I don't believe they announced anything, but I may be wrong.) I don't believe for one second that they knocked on the door several times before breaking in. They wouldn't have gotten a "no knock" warrant had they intended to do so.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 5:33 pm
Paladin wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 3:13 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 2:51 pm Kentucky is KY. If the officers announced their presence, I am not sure how the home owner can claim they did not know it was the cops. This one should get interesting. I wonder if the cops had their body cams running. I do worry about the "no knock" warrants for this very reason.
The officer's knocking and announcing their presence is a fact in dispute. With the known fact that the officers had a warrant for a bogus address and an apparent bogus sighting of a car... this sounds like an incident similar to what happened in Houston. An officer lied and/or manufactured evidence to get the warrant... and allegedly did a poor job executing the warrant. In any event it was a bad raid with an unnecessary death.
If the raid took place at 1:30AM, it is quite likely that the residents didn't hear anything the officers may have said while entering. (I don't believe they announced anything, but I may be wrong.) I don't believe for one second that they knocked on the door several times before breaking in. They wouldn't have gotten a "no knock" warrant had they intended to do so.

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https://www.wave3.com/2020/05/29/lmpd-o ... e-protest/

Louisville mayor suspends no knock warrants.

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https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louisvill ... 5671a.html

Police chief fired after no body cam footage of shooting death of Bbq restaurant owner near protest march.
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Well that's a hot mess. The chief getting fired because someone either didn't have body cams or turned them off. And only a month before retirement? Big time wrongful termination lawsuit coming I would think.
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https://bluelivesmatter.blue/breonna-ta ... le-police/

Boyfriend claims stand you ground in shooting at police officers with no knock warrant.

Sues Louisville police.

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https://news.yahoo.com/death-breonna-ta ... 26563.html

Apparently good reasons for police to be interested in Breonna Taylor. Jail house telephone conversations between her and the know drug guy who was the target. He visited her house 8 times in January. Observed one time leaving with a package. Drug guy said on phone she keeps all him money.

Oh and the target who was arrested the night Breonna Taylor was shot has skipped bail and is a fugitive.

No money or drugs found.

Still don’t like no knock warrants.

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https://www.wlky.com/article/settlement ... y/34024403

Louisville will pay 12 million to the Taylor family.

There were also some police changes. None included stopping no knock warrants.

Does this mean Houston taxpayers will pay 24 million to the Tuttle family for the botched Harding street raid?

It’s been 18 months and still no answers.
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One officer has been indicted:

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Haven't seen it, but others reporting Kentucky AG in press conference just now saying it was NOT "no knock" and that information is corroborated.

So we've been lied to all this time. :banghead:

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rtschl wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:00 pm Haven't seen it, but others reporting Kentucky AG in press conference just now saying it was NOT "no knock" and that information is corroborated.

So we've been lied to all this time. :banghead:

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Bill Hemmer just said it was a no knock warrant again. At least the reporter reporting the story got it right saying it was NOT a no knock warrant. The media is just criminal in their reporting at times.

Christ! Now they are saying no knock warrant but the cops did knock and announce. It sux there is no body cam footage.

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03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:04 pm Christ! Now they are saying no knock warrant but the cops did knock and announce. It sux there is no body cam footage.
That was my understanding. A no knock warrant was issued, but for some reason the officers decided knock and announce. KY Attorney General said there was corroboration on the knock and announcement.
Still, something feels off. Why would you knock with a no knock warrant? Body cam would sure clear up some of the mystery.

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BigGuy wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:53 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:04 pm Christ! Now they are saying no knock warrant but the cops did knock and announce. It sux there is no body cam footage.
That was my understanding. A no knock warrant was issued, but for some reason the officers decided knock and announce. KY Attorney General said there was corroboration on the knock and announcement.
Still, something feels off. Why would you knock with a no knock warrant? Body cam would sure clear up some of the mystery.
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