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Can't blame the guy for getting his gun wanting to protect himself, but firing a shot?? Idiot.
How about, call the cops and pick a safe place to wait?
Glad the TABC guys weren't hurt.

Scott in Houston wrote:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8255357
Can't blame the guy for getting his gun wanting to protect himself, but firing a shot?? Idiot.
How about, call the cops and pick a safe place to wait?
Glad the TABC guys weren't hurt.

Broke rule number four.

This is called shooting 'cuz you're scared to scare away what's scaring you.

Since the shot is fired randomly and not at an identified threat target, the likelihood of hitting someone who is not a threat is very high.

Both the officers and the bar owner lucked out big time in this incident.

DOC - discharge a firearm.

Based solely on what I read in the article, there is absolutely no justification for shooting.

I'm thinking a 911 call would have been good instead of just shooting blindly.
I wonder if he has had any problems with robberies in the past.

If there is time to fire a warning shot, there is time to do something else, like call the police.

This is a prime example of a lack of training.

Scott in Houston wrote:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8255357
Can't blame the guy for getting his gun wanting to protect himself, but firing a shot?? Idiot.
How about, call the cops and pick a safe place to wait?
Glad the TABC guys weren't hurt.

First I don't agree with firing blindly due to fear or whatever. But, personally if I own a business, I will want to protect that business including all that is contained there. I am not one of those who believe a criminal's well being is worth more than what I have worked for. This is not saying I would shoot anyone, but I would try to warn them off at the minimum, and this without shooting anywhere within my dwelling as a warning shot. Hiding to wait to see, who I believe is a miscreant, what they intend within my home or business doesn't make sense to me, i.e. is it robbery, arson, a beginning serial killer, or what? I don't think the news story conveys all that occurred, especially the emotions present, as it is wont to do. Did the TABC officers enter and loadly state who they were, or did they quitely enter, hoping to catch someone who had broken in or some other evil doings? I am not for sure, but what gives them, or any L.E. the right to enter an unlocked door to any dwelling? Musn't L.E. have cause to enter without a warrant? I mean the business was closed, did they think it was still open? Of course just like everyone else I am armchair quarterbacking this.

My main concern is that the guy had no idea what he was shooting at.

What if some teenagers wandered in the open-door for giggles in the wee hours of the night?

Yes they are trespassing and should know better, but I would feel like crap if a couple of kids got shot for being stupid.

(I say this based purely on my lack of judgement as a teenager).

Purplehood wrote:My main concern is that the guy had no idea what he was shooting at.

What if some teenagers wandered in the open-door for giggles in the wee hours of the night?

Yes they are trespassing and should know better, but I would feel like crap if a couple of kids got shot for being stupid.

(I say this based purely on my lack of judgement as a teenager).

Amen.

DEB wrote:

Scott in Houston wrote:http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?secti ... id=8255357
Can't blame the guy for getting his gun wanting to protect himself, but firing a shot?? Idiot.
How about, call the cops and pick a safe place to wait?
Glad the TABC guys weren't hurt.

First I don't agree with firing blindly due to fear or whatever. But, personally if I own a business, I will want to protect that business including all that is contained there. I am not one of those who believe a criminal's well being is worth more than what I have worked for. This is not saying I would shoot anyone, but I would try to warn them off at the minimum, and this without shooting anywhere within my dwelling as a warning shot. Hiding to wait to see, who I believe is a miscreant, what they intend within my home or business doesn't make sense to me, i.e. is it robbery, arson, a beginning serial killer, or what? I don't think the news story conveys all that occurred, especially the emotions present, as it is wont to do. Did the TABC officers enter and loadly state who they were, or did they quitely enter, hoping to catch someone who had broken in or some other evil doings? I am not for sure, but what gives them, or any L.E. the right to enter an unlocked door to any dwelling? Musn't L.E. have cause to enter without a warrant? I mean the business was closed, did they think it was still open? Of course just like everyone else I am armchair quarterbacking this.

An open door on a business at 03:00 and no sign of employees or other authorized people working is a prime example of not needing a warrant to enter.

There should be no charges against the owner, even though what he did is a wee bit on the stupid side, and the TABC agents should get a verbal(and not one for their permanent jacket) for not Identifying themselves to the owner until after the shot was fired.