I Hope I am Wrong

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Re: I Hope I am Wrong

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Douva wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:
Douva wrote:
74novaman wrote:
chasfm11 wrote: Speaker Strauss has no intention of letting pro-gun bills pass. That would be a slap in the face to the Washington crowd right now and I don't think that Strauss is willing to do that.
If true, he needs to go. It is rediculous for a Republican congress in a solidly conservative state to not pass pro gun legislation (or anything else for that matter concerning Texas) because of what some jerks up in DC are up to. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Do you have any evidence that this has anything to do with what is going on in D.C?

I don't know if you followed the Texas Legislature in '09 or '11, but the story was pretty much the same back then. If memory serves me, the Texas Legislature has passed only one significant gun rights bill since 2007. The Texas legislative process is structured so that bills are easier to kill than to pass. That is especially true of highly controversial bills. The people who are surprised that campus carry and open carry aren't passing effortlessly through the Texas Capitol are the people who don't know anything about the Texas legislative process. They're assuming--as do many people--that majority support equals victory. Unfortunately, that's frequently not the case.

I have no evidence whatever. I don't think his motives will ever rise to the "evidence" level on anything that he opposes. I'm just doing my best to read the tea leaves.

Last session, a TSA bill was also defeated that would have been an "in your face" to the Federal government. While I know that there were others involved in that defeat, Strauss was an opponent. It had nothing to do with guns.

That is as close to "connect the dots" as I can get.
If you see any dots in that statement, you may need to clean your glasses.

Speaker Straus is a problem, but suggesting that he's taking orders from Washington or trying to enforce President Obama's gun control agenda diverts attention away from the real problem and into the realm of conspiracy theories.
I'm sure you have very solid proof that he is not taking orders from his friends in D.C and has nothing to do with the gun control agenda. Please feel free to enlighten the rest of us.
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Conspiracy Theory was on last night, that movie is awesome.

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Re: I Hope I am Wrong

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Douva wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:
Douva wrote:
74novaman wrote:
chasfm11 wrote: Speaker Strauss has no intention of letting pro-gun bills pass. That would be a slap in the face to the Washington crowd right now and I don't think that Strauss is willing to do that.
If true, he needs to go. It is rediculous for a Republican congress in a solidly conservative state to not pass pro gun legislation (or anything else for that matter concerning Texas) because of what some jerks up in DC are up to. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Do you have any evidence that this has anything to do with what is going on in D.C?

I don't know if you followed the Texas Legislature in '09 or '11, but the story was pretty much the same back then. If memory serves me, the Texas Legislature has passed only one significant gun rights bill since 2007. The Texas legislative process is structured so that bills are easier to kill than to pass. That is especially true of highly controversial bills. The people who are surprised that campus carry and open carry aren't passing effortlessly through the Texas Capitol are the people who don't know anything about the Texas legislative process. They're assuming--as do many people--that majority support equals victory. Unfortunately, that's frequently not the case.

I have no evidence whatever. I don't think his motives will ever rise to the "evidence" level on anything that he opposes. I'm just doing my best to read the tea leaves.

Last session, a TSA bill was also defeated that would have been an "in your face" to the Federal government. While I know that there were others involved in that defeat, Strauss was an opponent. It had nothing to do with guns.

That is as close to "connect the dots" as I can get.
If you see any dots in that statement, you may need to clean your glasses.

Speaker Straus is a problem, but suggesting that he's taking orders from Washington or trying to enforce President Obama's gun control agenda diverts attention away from the real problem and into the realm of conspiracy theories.
There is a lot of space between what I said about Strauss not wanting to be in the White House's face and what it was suggested that I said about Strauss taking orders.

But since I've assumed blame for being involved with conspiracy theories, let me dive into the deep end of that pool. I cannot find a credible source yet but it appears that the White House was involved in some high level arm twisting of Colorado lawmakers to persuade them to support their recent gun legislation. The President needed a stage, which was reportedly staffed by LEOs, some of whom later went on record as not wanting to be part of the backdrop for the Presidential speech because they didn't agree with the new laws. It was strongly suggested that those LEOs participate regardless of their personal opinions. It was strongly suggested that the Colorado legislature pass the bills or there would be well funded challengers for the next primaries. Of the Chicago group, only Blago has been stupid enough to get such things on tape as evidence.

Now, let me really dive in. I believe that the White House was fully aware that getting anti-gun legislation through Congress was gong to be like pushing a string. The commitment to continue is a lot more about increasing the revenue opportunity for OFA than it is for getting the gun legislation passed. And I believe that those involved are willing to twist anyone and everyone's arm that they can get in their reach to make sure that nothing derails that fund raising. On that scene, Strauss would be a bit player at best. Without a high visibility national interest event, I don't think that there is any need for Strauss to be ordered to do anything.

Now, I'll just take my tin foil hat and sit in the corner.
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Re: I Hope I am Wrong

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stash wrote:Keeping in mind that I have no insight into what is going on behind the scene, I am beginning to wonder if the hallmark bill for us this session is going to be shorter initial class and maybe no renewal class.
I'm beginning to think those are distractions. They can kill the good gun rights bills (CC, OC, etc.) and give us a Democrat Approved "feel good" law to claim they are doing something for gun owners. I hope I'm wrong.
I sincerely apologize to anybody I offended by suggesting the Second Amendment also applies to The People who don't work for the government.
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