HB 910 (OC) Committee debate - Now

[v7a]

So, what's logical about a hospital buying gun safes?

I think the argument is that before entering a prohibited building on campus the CHL licensee would "check" their gun into a safe. However, the proposed bill doesn't require accommodating CHLs in this way (and thus the cost argument is invalid). If a CHL has a need to enter a prohibited building they can lock the gun in their car.

[TVGuy]

Surprised how strongly Representative Nevarez pushed back on the witness who claimed (referencing this article) that Campus Carry will take 40 gazillion dollars away from cancer research. While he's obviously still going to vote against, I have some newfound respect for him.

Are you sure that was Navarez? I didn't think he was in the room at the time.

Not sure from the video, but I thought it was his voice. I might be mistaken though.

It was Nevarez if you're talking about the testimony mentioning MD Anderson's cost of $20 m for gun safes. Please correct me but doesn't the existing laws prohibit CHL carry in a hospital? So, what's logical about a hospital buying gun safes?

They were concerned that teaching hospitals would fall under schools and not hospitals if this was passed. I believe they would still fall under "hospital" (does not mean I agree with designation).

It's also been brought up that MD Anderson switches from hospital to school at random and one must walk from one through the other to go anywhere.

[mr1337]

This firearm instructor wants to bring back the class for renewals. His business must be hurting from when the requirement was removed.

Did anyone catch his name? Let's leave his business some yelp reviews so that potential customers know how deep his support for the 2nd Amendment runs.

I didn't get it. We'll have to get it when the recording is posted.

[oohrah]

Actually, MD Anderson is a UT campus, if OC passes, that will probably be a grey area if the can post 30.06 signs. They do not have signs now.

[v7a]

I'd love to see a Committee Member ask one of these "give us local control" buffoons if they think that each institution should also be allowed to decide whether gay or Muslim students can be admitted.

[treadlightly]

Great question from a Representative. A UT student said he wouldn't feel safe around guns, and a Representative asked if the student felt unsafe in the committee room, where you just didn't know who was packing.

I liked that question. I sure wouldn't feel unsafe there, whether or not I was armed. No reason to be, in fact, just the opposite. A very polite, generally civil environment. A nuthouse, maybe, but civil.

[joelamosobadiah]

Great question from a Representative. A UT student said he wouldn't feel safe around guns, and a Representative asked if the student felt unsafe in the committee room, where you just didn't know who was packing.

I liked that question. I sure wouldn't feel unsafe there, whether or not I was armed. No reason to be, in fact, just the opposite. A very polite, generally civil environment. A nuthouse, maybe, but civil.

But unlike our storied state capitol building, their classrooms are sacred!

[joelamosobadiah]

Actually, MD Anderson is a UT campus, if OC passes, that will probably be a grey area if the can post 30.06 signs. They do not have signs now.

During the testimony in the Senate Committee, the UT chancellor was all but guaranteed specific language added to clarify MD Anderson and other medical facilities.

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[Jasonw560]

So, all college campuses are akin to Disneyland now. A magical place with rainbows and unicorns. Where NOTHING bad ever happens.

I quit watching after one or two of the "the teachers (professors) will be the targets if this bill is passed..." Um....this bill is geared towards you, dillweed.

[RPBrown]

Did they vote it out of committee or was this just public hearing?

[joelamosobadiah]

Did they vote it out of committee or was this just public hearing?

From what I understood, just the hearing. Vote will be at next committee meeting most likely.

[TexasCajun]

Did they vote it out of committee or was this just public hearing?

Just the hearing. They'll most likely vote it out of committee at the beginning of an upcoming committee meeting.

[K5GU]

So, what's logical about a hospital buying gun safes?

I think the argument is that before entering a prohibited building on campus the CHL licensee would "check" their gun into a safe. However, the proposed bill doesn't require accommodating CHLs in this way (and thus the cost argument is invalid). If a CHL has a need to enter a prohibited building they can lock the gun in their car.

Exactly. And like Chairman Phillips said, playing the 'high cost card' is a common attempt by someone to kill a bill.

[RogueUSMC]

All this over a statistical non-issue...

A discussion with a coworker resulted in us doing the math.

12000 Tyler Junior College student population
3000 For the sake of argument split the classes up evenly four ways allowing the seniors to be in the agegroup that can have a license
90 Roughly 3% of the states population has chosen to obtain a license
45 Polls have shown about half of license holders donnot carry on a regular basis

So, that is roughly 45 out of 12000 that might, statistically, be carrying a gun on a regular basis.

Add to that the fact that those 45 are 17 times less likely to break the law than the other 11955.

A statistical non-issue made out to be an unbelievable crisis!