CHL Arrested in Fort Worth

[casingpoint]

don't let your mouth write any checks your butt can't cash

Choice words. It's amazing how many people overdraw their accounts.

The guy probably did not intentionally leave exposed the grip of his Glock pistol. More than likely it just worked it's way out of the mesh bag. But he will have to hire an attorney to beat the rap. It's almost always a bad idea to run from the cops. It triggers the predator instinct to capture fleeing prey.

[Bart]

Your wrong, it isn't the same thing. He ran his mouth when he shouldn't have. Folks with big mouths often have troubles others don't. I am sure he had an attitude about authority figures. Well, now he can consider his next big move in life. He sure taught those pesky ole cops a thing or two...LOL.

So much for Freedom of Speech in DFW.

[mr.72]

Cops get their egos bruised a little bit by a cyclist, suddenly they have prove his point by being overbearing jerks.

Dude would not have been "evading arrest" if they weren't chasing him down in order to pump up their egos. They wouldn't have left whoever else they were harassing to go chase down the cyclist over the headlight unless they were defending their delicate egos. They wouldn't have fund the pistol and charged him with UCW if they hadn't indulged in this chase in order to stroke their egos.

Whether the cyclist was a jerk or not is not the point. The point is that the police were jerks. The difference is that the police have badges and the regular citizen does not. One person once said about driving that if you leave the house with a gun, leave your middle finger at home. Well IMHO if the police pin on that badge, then they need to leave their delicate ego at home.

And we wonder why a lot of people don't trust the police?

Nice to see all of the nice comments about cyclists on this forum. And you guys wonder why gun owners tend to alienate others?

[bryang]

Well, the whole thing is...if the guy on the bike had just kept his mouth shut and went on by the cops they probably would not have even noticed him. We all know that when we are carrying that we should never draw attention to ourselves, in dress, in word, or behavior. It is a shame that a CHL holder would do something like this...as someone has already said, it does make us all look bad.

Why he would say something like that to the police and then run from them is beyond me.

-geo

[WildBill]

Why he would say something like that to the police and then run from them is beyond me. -geo

He's a 23 year old goofball, that's why. On the other hand, I think the police "over reacted" to the situation. They could have laughed it off, but their egos just couldn't let some smartalec kid get away with giving them the verbal finger.

[mr.72]

Anyone who can't handle someone making a wisecrack about them and respond in a professional manner does not belong on a police force. Sounds to me like they are professional bullies.

[Oldgringo]

mr.72 wrote:

...And you guys wonder why gun owners tend to alienate others?

I never intended to alienate anyone who didn't need alienating. I'm sure sorry if I've somehow offended you...that's for sure.

[mr.72]

I never intended to alienate anyone who didn't need alienating. I'm sure sorry if I've somehow offended you...that's for sure.

Not that anyone "needs alienating", but I wasn't talking about you. More like this comment:

One less spandex wearing yuppie screwing up traffic....works for me. Hope they took his bike

[jorge]

"Did y’all read them their rights first?" the cyclist said loudly as he pedaled past.

He was charged with both misdemeanors Thursday, court records show

I bet they made sure to read him his rights first. LOL

[Keith B]

"Did y’all read them their rights first?" the cyclist said loudly as he pedaled past.

He was charged with both misdemeanors Thursday, court records show

I bet they made sure to read him his rights first. LOL

Yeah, "Mr. Bike Rider, You have the right to reamin silent..." which if he had of done in the first place this thread wouldn't exist.

[SlowDave]

Couple of comments:
1. You might be surprised where you'll find spandex wearing bicyclist types. Maybe not yuppies, maybe CHL holders, maybe good upstanding citizens who are attempting to keep themselves in good physical shape and not be a burden on the medical system while consuming a tiny bit less resources, thereby leaving more for you to consume. Can't we all get along? You might even end up depending on one of those spandex wearing freaks to save your life one day, as far as you know.

2. Maybe the cops didn't leave the original 5 and maybe that was a serious stop and they had add'l officers showing up and 1 or 2 of those add'l officers went after the bicyclist.

On a lighter note, anyone see Chris Rock's "How to not get your [rear end] whooped by the PO-lice" video? This reminds me of that.

[Morgan]

Your wrong, it isn't the same thing. He ran his mouth when he shouldn't have. Folks with big mouths often have troubles others don't. I am sure he had an attitude about authority figures. Well, now he can consider his next big move in life. He sure taught those pesky ole cops a thing or two...LOL.

So much for Freedom of Speech in DFW.

If one were to go robbing houses while blaring the communist manifesto on a bull horn, and one was arrested, would you suppose that this would be the suppression of free speech?

No.

Furthermore, they didn't suppress his speech. When he willingly drew the attention of the authorities to him, they noticed infractions. Had he been infraction free, do you think they would have beat him? I doubt it. Nor would he have been incarcerated for his speech.

Don't make this about something it is not... someone didn't have all their ducks in a row and they peed on the shoe of a police officer. Those infractions wouldn't have been noticed if the guy didn't WILLINGLY open his mouth to be a jerk.

[Pinkycatcher]

If one were to go robbing houses while blaring the communist manifesto on a bull horn, and one was arrested, would you suppose that this would be the suppression of free speech?

No.

Furthermore, they didn't suppress his speech. When he willingly drew the attention of the authorities to him, they noticed infractions. Had he been infraction free, do you think they would have beat him? I doubt it. Nor would he have been incarcerated for his speech.

Don't make this about something it is not... someone didn't have all their ducks in a row and they peed on the shoe of a police officer. Those infractions wouldn't have been noticed if the guy didn't WILLINGLY open his mouth to be a jerk.

But the guy robbing the house would have been caught whether or not he was yelling communist speech, this guy was arrested because he said these words, do you seriously believe a police officer would stop someone just biking by if they said nothing in this same situation? No they would not have, you can argue it til the cows come home, but there are very few officers who are going to do that. This arrest was solely because of his speech, if he would have garnered the attention of the officers in a different way, without insulting them, they would have nearly always let him go with a warning at most, they would not have ticketed him. So yes, he was arrested for his speech.

And to say if he would have kept his "ducks in a row" he would not have gotten a ticket is a fallacy, there are thousand upon thousands of petty infractions that exist, and there's a near 100% chance any given person is breaking at least one of them while doing anything. So if it wern't for these problems, they could have found more.

[KRM45]

But the guy robbing the house would have been caught whether or not he was yelling communist speech, this guy was arrested because he said these words, do you seriously believe a police officer would stop someone just biking by if they said nothing in this same situation? No they would not have, you can argue it til the cows come home, but there are very few officers who are going to do that. This arrest was solely because of his speech, if he would have garnered the attention of the officers in a different way, without insulting them, they would have nearly always let him go with a warning at most, they would not have ticketed him. So yes, he was arrested for his speech.

And to say if he would have kept his "ducks in a row" he would not have gotten a ticket is a fallacy, there are thousand upon thousands of petty infractions that exist, and there's a near 100% chance any given person is breaking at least one of them while doing anything. So if it wern't for these problems, they could have found more.

The police stop people on bicycles regularly. I know because I have done it. Riding a bike on a street at night with no lights is illegal, and it's unsafe. I would stop that person 9 times out of 10. I might not give him a ticket, but I will stop them. Couple that with trying to evade and you go to jail.

It's interesting that so many people know these officers were just wasting peoples time, or their egos were hurt, etc. I know nothing more about this situation than what I read in the article, and I will not make up facts to support one side or the other. Maybe the cop was a jerk, who knows, but based on the info in the article it's pretty clear the CHL holder drew unwanted attention to himself while breaking multiple laws.

[Furyataurus]

Apparently this cyclist has a brother who posted on Glock Talk about what happened. The GT'ers bashed his bro pretty hard. That thread is locked now.