LTC 104

[AF-Odin]

Back in January I (and I assume all other Instructors) received an email from RSD about the new LTC-104 that would replace the LTC 100 and LTC 101. Their email stated that as of 1 May, 100s and 101s would NOT be accepted. I have emailed RSD 4 times asking when the form will be available (I cannot find it on RSD's site). I have NOT received an answer. We are now six weeks out from the mandatory start date and I would like to start using the new form IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. If I cannot find the form by next Monday (18 March) I will call and see as they do not answer emails.

[Paladin]

Thanks for the update! I haven't seen anything either.

[jmorris]

Appears they've already removed the 100 & 101.

[AF-Odin]

Well, I called RSD this morning and the individual with whom I spoke, though very polite, stated that the form would be AVAILABLE in May and if I have not seen it by the middle of May to call back. I told her that by the middle of May I expect to have taught at least two classes and their email stated that the LTC 100 WOULD NOT be accepted for any class taught after 1 May. Thanked her for her time and sent yet another email. Next step is that if I do not see the form on the site by mid-April, call my State Rep.

[Paladin]

Yes, that is not an acceptable response. They either need to accept the old forms or provide us a new one in a timely manner.

[AF-Odin]

Well, here we are at 25 April and RSD claims that the LTC-104 will be available ON 1 May because they do not want anyone to use it before then. We will see. I have a class 30 April (using the LTC-100)and again on 4 May (hopefully with the LTC-104).

[Greybeard]

Thankfully, I have copies (partially completed) of the LTC-100. And a private class on April 27. In reseaching the DPS web site, I found NO way to print an LTC-100. So, it appears anyone who needs one before May 1 could be up the proverbial creek ......

[Vol Texan]

Good news.

I just received the following email from DPS:

Good afternoon,

We do not yet have the form available; its implementation has been delayed. We will send notification once it's ready and available and will accept LTC-100/101s in the meantime.

Best regards,

Regulatory Services Division

[AF-Odin]

Yep, got the same email as I am sure all instructors did. What can be so hard that they cannot get the new form done in four months?

At least I know what form to use in Saturday's class now.

[Paladin]

Just got an email with the LTC 104.

Email indicates "The LTC-100 and LTC-101 will continue to be accepted until further notice."

[Vol Texan]

New email today!

The new Handgun Training Certificate (LTC-104) is attached and available for use. This form combines the content of the LTC-100 and LTC-101, replacing them with a single document.



The LTC-100 and LTC-101 will continue to be accepted until further notice.



If you choose to utilize the LTC-104, please make sure to select the appropriate box in the “Classroom Instruction” section indicating LTC Instructor (in-person classroom instruction) or OCP (online classroom instruction).



As a reminder, class completion forms (LTC-8 and LTC-9) are still required and must be submitted by the instructor. All other forms and documents, including Handgun Training Certificates, must be submitted by the student.



If you have any questions, please email RSD_LRS_LTC@dps.texas.gov





Regards,







Texas Department of Public Safety

Regulatory Services Division

[AF-Odin]

HMMM, as of 1730today I have not received the second email and just got off the RSD site filing a Form 8 for today's class and did not see it. Will take another look shortly.


Edit to add: Form popped in at 1830 this evening. Will be starting to use in my class on Saturday.