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I started using the Use of force power point available on the DPS website...On the slide talking about "factors in determining the use of force" it list "race" as a factor in determining the use of force...Ummmm...That sounds like it can get someone in a lot of trouble, i mean is that right? In my opinion they made a mistake and "race" should not be a factor in determining the use of force

You've never been tackled by a Samoan linebacker.

RoyGBiv wrote:You've never been tackled by a Samoan linebacker.

Maybe they meant if your attacker is the same race, you can use force sooner because bigots wont be playing the race card.

...Samoans...where ARE those Girl Scouts this year!!!

RoyGBiv wrote:You've never been tackled by a Samoan linebacker.

you mean Dwayne Johnson?
if he was chasing me, I would have to run away .....quickly

now i need to go look at this spread sheet
thanks

In the instructor class last August, when they got to that slide, they specifically said yes race is often a factor in forming a persons perceptions to justify use of force. Regardless of right or wrong, many people, even unconsciously will take race into consideration.

Remember, these are only factors that form the actors own perceptions on whether to use force/deadly force. It still has to meet the "reasonableness" test as determined by the DA/Grand Jury/Jury to be found justified.

Brian

speedsix wrote:...Samoans...where ARE those Girl Scouts this year!!!

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/2 ... 2/-1/blogs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...OK, maybe that's where the Girl Scouts are...but where did they stash their Samoas before they left...THAT'S what I'M after!!!

Everytime i read the title I think the state has learned to weaponize Microsoft Office and killed somebody with it

Lambda Force wrote:

speedsix wrote:...Samoans...where ARE those Girl Scouts this year!!!

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/2 ... 2/-1/blogs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow! Where's my tin foil hat when I need it. Had to check that it wasn't written on 4\1.

psijac wrote:Everytime i read the title I think the state has learned to weaponize Microsoft Office and killed somebody with it

I have seen some power point presentations that nearly bored me to death.

tbrown wrote:

psijac wrote:Everytime i read the title I think the state has learned to weaponize Microsoft Office and killed somebody with it

I have seen some power point presentations that nearly bored me to death.

Did they come from DPS?