That is super helpful. Thank you.J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/ ... ock-rules/
The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.
Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.
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I haven't kept up with the entire thread and this question may have been answered. id you find out who owns the bull and how enters your property? I just wondered if there are any gates in the fence/s between you and your neighbor/s that can be opened to allow access to your property? Can you say free feed?rotor wrote:That is super helpful. Thank you.J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/ ... ock-rules/
The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.
Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.

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No gates between neighbors. None of the neighbors on 3 sides claimed him and for now I haven't seen him again but I don't go out every day. I am assuming he is jumping the fence. If I see him I am calling the Sheriff.puma guy wrote:I haven't kept up with the entire thread and this question may have been answered. id you find out who owns the bull and how enters your property? I just wondered if there are any gates in the fence/s between you and your neighbor/s that can be opened to allow access to your property? Can you say free feed?rotor wrote:That is super helpful. Thank you.J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/ ... ock-rules/
The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.
Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.
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The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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I thought that was only for horse thieves.RogueUSMC wrote:Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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Is it rustlin' if it isn't branded or tagged?RogueUSMC wrote:Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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The whole 'wire cutters in your saddlebags' covers the rustling I think. When was the last time someone was charged with it though?WildBill wrote:I thought that was only for horse thieves.RogueUSMC wrote:Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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Brand or tag matters not to whether or not it is theft. Just makes it easier to prove.mloamiller wrote:Is it rustlin' if it isn't branded or tagged?RogueUSMC wrote:Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
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RogueUSMC wrote:The whole 'wire cutters in your saddlebags' covers the rustling I think. When was the last time someone was charged with it though?WildBill wrote:I thought that was only for horse thieves.RogueUSMC wrote:Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!
While I don't think anyone has been "strung up" for rustling for a few years, it is still a serious offense, and is aggressively prosecuted. The Texas Cattle Raisers Association, will do everything they can to see that rustlers are given the maximum sentences. I have an Ex-BIL who spent about 3 years as a ward of the State, after "misappropriating" a few calves.

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There you go; box it up, mail it to TSCRA postage due and let them figure out where it goes. If they want special privileges, they need to accept the responsibilities that go with them.Jusme wrote:While I don't think anyone has been "strung up" for rustling for a few years, it is still a serious offense, and is aggressively prosecuted. The Texas Cattle Raisers Association, will do everything they can to see that rustlers are given the maximum sentences.
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I guess it is time to lock the post. Call the Sheriff is the answer. It is not legal to "keep" the animal. Thank you all for the suggestions. I learned a lot.
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It seems much easier to encourage the interloper to leave my property. If it goes through a fence to a neighbor, I'll fix the fence. If it goes out the gate into the road, I'll close the gate. Either way it's not my problem any more and the Cattle Rustlers Association can deal with it unless the Sheriff beats them to the punchKD5NRH wrote:There you go; box it up, mail it to TSCRA postage due and let them figure out where it goes. If they want special privileges, they need to accept the responsibilities that go with them.
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It doesn;'t seem right that a 200lb human can be penalized for trespassing, yet there is no penalty for letting a 2,000lb bull wander wherever .. Seems like the owner should be forced to pay grazing fees, rent, clean up something?
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That's a good point Liberty. It seems the owner should have to pay at least as much as the owner of a car that's towed.
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