Joe Horn going to Grand jury

[lawrnk]

Horn walks...nuff said

If you have the ability to reliably predict the actions of grand juries and potentially trial juries then you could become quite wealthy selling your prognostication services to attornies. Call me a skeptic, but I rather doubt your alleged powers in this area. Horn may well walk (and I hope he does), but that's not nearly the slam-dunk you seem to think it is. Have you read the 911 transcripts? I'm betting that a competent DA could at least turn that into an indictment without too much of a strain.

Actually, I'm likely up there in those here who have poured over every detail of the case, and have been involved with the radio stations regarding raising funds. I've also been in contact with his Lawyer multiple times, etc..yada yada yada.

All that aside, I simply believe he will walk from this case. I do not expect it to go to trial, but I cannot see him being convicted. By the way, welcome to the board.

[lawrnk]

KTRH poll this morning showed 91% of several thousand votes would let him off. This is a stinker for any DA. There is a really good reason the DA has sat on this for 8 months

[Venus Pax]

How does someone get on the grand jury? I'll volunteer for that one.

I'm curious about that as well. I would also like to volunteer.

[Xander]

How does someone get on the grand jury? I'll volunteer for that one.

Not 100% sure about Texas, but usually it's the same way you get on a trial jury. You get a summons for jury duty, you show up, and you may or may not be selected.

[WildBill]

How does someone get on the grand jury? I'll volunteer for that one.

Not 100% sure about Texas, but usually it's the same way you get on a trial jury. You get a summons for jury duty, you show up, and you may or may not be selected.

Grand Jurors aren't selected from the normal jury pool. You must apply to be a member of the grand jury. In Harris County, they are empaneled for 90 days. During this time they will hear many cases, not just the one for Joe Horn. If you are interested, go to the Harris County website and download an application and send it in. http://www.justex.net/GrandJuryInfo/FAQ.aspx

[Xander]

How does someone get on the grand jury? I'll volunteer for that one.

Not 100% sure about Texas, but usually it's the same way you get on a trial jury. You get a summons for jury duty, you show up, and you may or may not be selected.

Grand Jurors aren't selected from the normal jury pool. You must apply to be a member of the grand jury. In Harris County, they are empaneled for 90 days. During this time they will hear many cases, not just the one for Joe Horn. If you are interested, go to the Harris County website and download an application and send it in. http://www.justex.net/GrandJuryInfo/FAQ.aspx

Shoot...You get a free helicopter ride? Being a grand juror in Harris County is a pretty sweet gig.

[HerbM]

Sounds like Grand Jury is going on this week -- might be decided this week or by end of the month (June 08)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hot ... 40087.html

[WildBill]

Shoot...You get a free helicopter ride? Being a grand juror in Harris County is a pretty sweet gig.

Police ride-alongs and free ham sandwiches too!

Seriously, I think [and hope] that Joe Horn is no-billed.

[HerbM]

Shoot...You get a free helicopter ride? Being a grand juror in Harris County is a pretty sweet gig.

Police ride-alongs and free ham sandwiches too!

Seriously, I think [and hope] that Joe Horn is no-billed.

From the report he committed NO CRIME. He was under attack (according to the responding LEO reports I saw) when he fired -- that the perps might have turned away seeing him raise the gun is not relevant -- once deadly force is authorized you don't have to shoot in the front.

That's without the Castle Doctrine. Just stopping a serious felony should have been enough, but they were in his yard and charging.

Might have been wiser to let them go, but he did nothing legally or morally wrong.

[KBCraig]

I heard a news blurb about it this week on TSRN News, that made my blood boil. Their summary of the case was --as exactly as I can quote from memory-- "When he saw two men breaking into his neighbor's home, he blasted them."

I'm 100% certain of my memory on the bold part. That's really what the news reader said.

[HerbM]

I heard a news blurb about it this week on TSRN News, that made my blood boil. Their summary of the case was --as exactly as I can quote from memory-- "When he saw two men breaking into his neighbor's home, he blasted them."

I'm 100% certain of my memory on the bold part. That's really what the news reader said.

And many want to make something of the fact that the 911 operator told him "not to". Even a police officer can't give such instructions with legal force over the PHONE.

He has a perfect right to go out. He had a justificat to prevent a serious crime. He only fired when he realized that he had become the target of the attack. (According to the LEO witness.)

"Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in
the interests of community welfare and existence."

While there is NO DUTY to police, watching out for your neighbor is an admirable thing.

[Tajovo]

And many want to make something of the fact that the 911 operator told him "not to". Even a police officer can't give such instructions with legal force over the PHONE.

He has a perfect right to go out. He had a justificat to prevent a serious crime. He only fired when he realized that he had become the target of the attack. (According to the LEO witness.)

True, a 911 operator can't order you to do anything. Try to understand that we (911 operators) are trained to keep people out of harms way and on the phone until the calvary arrives.

Mr. Horn had the right to go out, but was WARNED several times that going outside of his house would put him in danger of being attacked by the burglars or being shot by responding officers. He CHOSE to put himself in harms way and for what? A bag of loot?

While there is NO DUTY to police, watching out for your neighbor is an admirable thing.

Watching out for your neighbors is one thing (and a very admirable thing these days), but putting yourself in danger is another thing.

My personal opinions aside, I pray that Mr. Horn is no-billed and I pray for his family to get safely through this mess.

[HerbM]

While there is NO DUTY to police, watching out for your neighbor is an admirable thing.

Watching out for your neighbors is one thing (and a very admirable thing these days), but putting yourself in danger is another thing.

My personal opinions aside, I pray that Mr. Horn is no-billed and I pray for his family to get safely through this mess.

Putting himself in danger was his, adult choice to make -- Horn agrees with you, he wishes he had acted otherwise.

None of this, has anything to do with the simple fact that (according to the reports) he has committed no crime, but rather a public service (That service is not the death of the criminals, but is rather the stopping of the crime.)

We agree on this.

I probably would not have gone outside -- I certainly would never have argued with a 911 operator about it. The 911 call seems to indicate that he was overwrought by the situation even before he went out.

[Skiprr]

Horn just cleared by Grand Jury: http://www.click2houston.com/news/16749 ... 0206302008

[WarHawk-AVG]

Horn just cleared by Grand Jury: http://www.click2houston.com/news/16749 ... 0206302008

Awesome!

My buddy says this is good news and bad news...good news is, he is off..bad news is, they can keep coming back at him forever. He told me it would have been better for him to have gone to trial and be found NOT GUILTY then he can NEVER be tried again for the same crime..as it stands now..they can keep coming at him till a grand jury can make it stick

Is this true?