Any information: Springfield 1911 doublestack .45

[solaritx]

Does anyone have any information about this Springfield 1911 high cap .45?

Is this a true double stack .45?

How does this weapon shoot?

Weight of weapon? IDPA legal?

Do Mag wells fit?

Here is the weapon in question:

http://www.tgscom.com/item/57990_Spring ... 911_G.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks
Garry N

[asleepatthereel]

New one on me. I.T. has the site blocked here at work, but Im interested too.

[fickman]

For those who were blocked, here is an image of the firearm and the specs from the above link.

Springfield Armory (Springfield Inc) Product Information

This Springfield Armory (Springfield Inc) GI Military Specification 1911 Pistol is a high capacity pistol with a full sized impact. Built with a forged frame slide and barrel, standard magazine well, standard ejection port and fixed sights the Springfield Armory (Springfield Inc) GI Military Specification 1911 Pistol is a sturdy, dependable and reliable weapon and you wouldn't expect anything less from Springfield Armory (Springfield Inc).

• Springfield Armory (Springfield Inc) GI Military Specification Hi-Cap1911 Pistol
• Model: GI Mil-Spec 1911 Semi-Automatic
• Manufacturer Number: SPW9701LPFC
• Size: Full
• Fit: Right Hand
• Action: Semi-Automatic
• Caliber: 45 ACP
• Capacity: 13 Round
• Barrel Length: 5 Inch
• Frame: Steel
• Fired Casing: Fired Case
• Grips: Plastic
• Sights: Fixed
• Includes:
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• 1 Magazine
• Belt Holster

[*]Finish: Parkerized[/*]
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[solaritx]

That was the information I found as well.

Problem is there just isn't all the information I need:

what is the weight of the gun? With an empty mag, could it be IDPA legal

Are there magwells that will fit this double stack? It looks like a great basic for a good IDPA gun if I could put a mag well on it, tune it, different beavertail, etc.

Garry N

[barres]

According to the Springfield Armory website, the PW9701LP weighs in at 40 oz. empty. I cannot answer your questions about IDPA for sure, but I kind of doubt it, unless there is a category for this type of pistol (I wouldn't know as I haven't gotten into IDPA, yet). I would bet that STI would make magwells that would fit this pistol, since they make double-stack 1911's/2011's with magwells themselves. Check their website under parts to make sure. The sights on the PW9701LP are also the old GI sights, and I would think you'd need to get the slide milled for better sights to be able to compete with this pistol. Springfield does make some very nice pistols, and I have heard good things about this particular model, but the website you linked to does show this to be out of stock. Good luck!

[jwp]

Here's the link to the appropriate Springfield Armory page: http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=11.
Springfield claims it weighs 40oz with an empty magazine. If that's true, then it's legal for IDPA in the ESP and CDP classes. You would have to load the mags with only ten rounds for ESP and eight rounds for CDP. The current IDPA rulebook is here: http://www.idpa.com/Documents/IDPARuleBook2005.pdf; see Appendix A , about page 19, for the rules on guns, and Appendix B for the ammunition "power factor" rules. To successfully use this for IDPA, you would at least need better sights (it has military sights), and probably a beavertail safety and trigger work.

Good luck in finding one to handle. I saw one in San Diego about six years ago and haven't seen one since. I'm not certain it was exactly the same pistol. I seem to remember that the model number (PW9701) was the same, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's still made the same. I was told by the gun shop clerk that it was built on a Para frame, but I don't know that for certain, and we all know the average level of knowledge of the gun shop clerk population. I do remember that it felt about the same size as a Para double stack. Bud's Guns lists this at $556 but is out of stock (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... s_id/32591).

Thanks for mentioning this model; I'd forgotten it existed. I've been thinking about a .460 Rowland for a while, but don't want to use my Trophy Match for it and don't have another 1911. Single stack Springfield "Government" models are acceptable platforms, and if the double stack version uses the same slide and upper frame, then it might work as well. Clark discontinued the conversion kit for Paras, and there doesn't seem to be any other double stack that's acceptable. This Springfield might provide that. Since Clark sells a Kimber Custom II with the conversion installed for under $1100 (you get the original barrel and spring, also), the Springfield probably wouldn't save any money as it would need a beavertail, sights, and probably trigger work. But it'd be amusing to have a 13+1 Rowland - too bad there's no bowling pin shooting around here, since that'd provide some justification :).