Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse?

AR-15
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37%
Mossberg 12 gauge
77
38%
1911
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2%
Crossbow
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Golf club
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6%
Baseball bat
2
1%
Other (describe below)
33
16%
 
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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The Zombie Survival Guide was written by Max Brooks, son of Mel Brooks.

Some people think that the best weapon against zombies would be a full auto
machine gun, but since zombies require a head shot, you may wish to use a
scoped rifle.

The aimed fire will be required since zombies, just like live people, are
different heights, so hosing a crowd of zombies with a full auto
machine gun would not be effective since you would not always get a head shot.

From Publishers Weekly
In this outrageous parody of a survival guide, Saturday Night Live staff writer Brooks prepares humanity for its eventual battle with zombies. One would expect the son of Mel Brooks to have a genetic predisposition to humor, and indeed, he does, and he exhibits it relentlessly here: he outlines virtually every possible zombie-human encounter, drafts detailed plans for defense and attack and outlines past recorded attacks dating from 60,000 B.C. to 2002. In planning for that catastrophic day when "the dead rise," Brooks urges readers to get to know themselves, their bodies, their weaponry, their surroundings and, just in case, their escape routes. Some of the book's more amusing aspects are the laughable analyses Brooks proposes on all aspects of zombiehood, and the specificity with which he enumerates the necessary actions for survival-i.e., a member of an anti-zombie team must be sure to have with him at all times two emergency flares, a signaling mirror, daily rations, a personal mess kit and two pairs of socks. Comic, though unnecessarily exhaustive, this is a good bet for Halloween gag gifts and fans of Bored of the Rings-esque humor. 100 line drawings.
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I thought I would supply this definitive guide to all you zombie fighters out there.

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I already own that book and have read most of it. It was a birthday gift from my fiance...and I like it. The book is pretty in depth and even comical at times. Good bathroom reading material at the very least.
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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I went 12 Ga, but in Shaun of the Dead they used a cricket bat to good effect.

There's one university in FL that has a Zombie Preparedness Policy. I'll try to find the link.

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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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AA12 automatic shotgun with about 100 spare mags loaded
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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If the zombies require a headshot I'd be carrying a .22LR because I know I'm more accurate with it than anything else.

Otherwise it would be an AR or AK... enough power stop the psycopaths that would most definitely be taking advantage of the chaos :???:
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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From the University of Florida "Alligator", 10/2/09.

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N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.

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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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surprise_i'm_armed wrote:http://www.alligator.org/news/campus/ar ... 0add2.html

From the University of Florida "Alligator", 10/2/09.

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That's the one I was thinking of. Thanks SIA!
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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I am ready for the zombies. I even have proper targets to practice on.
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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I normally don't enter into discussions on zombie eradication, but thought the fact that the zombie in the target above is named Bob was hilarious. :lol:
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I vote for AR-15.
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XD40 with a Glock 22 as backup and lots of loaded magazines.
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There's a Harvard trained neuropsychiatrist who calls it "Ataxic Neurodegenerative Satiety Deficiency Syndrome, or ANSD." (Source)
In Night of the Living Dead, zombies are brought back from the dead by a "mysterious force" that allows their brains to continue functioning. But how exactly does a zombie brain function? Finally, a Harvard psychiatrist has the answers.

Through education Dr. Steven C. Schlozman is an assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and a lecturer at the Harvard School of Education. He is also an avid sci-fi and horror fan - and, apparently, the world's leading authority on the neurobiology of the living dead. He has even drafted a fake medical journal article on the zombie plague, which he calls Ataxic Neurodegenerative Satiety Deficiency Syndrome, or ANSD (the article has five authors: one living, three "deceased" and one "humanoid infected").

Schlozman's foray into necro-diagnostics began when he volunteered to give a talk for the "Science on Screen" lecture series at the Coolidge Corner Theatre in Brookline, MA. He conducted extensive research by talking with George Romero and immersing himself in genre literature and memorabilia - which is why the alternate title for his lecture is "A Way Cool Tax Deduction for a Bunch of Cool Books, Action Figures and a Movie."

So yes, Schlozman's lecture is actually quite funny, and liberally sprinkled with other pop culture references including Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly. But the underlying science is serious. His lecture is a tour of the human brain, using the living dead as a narrative theme.

According to Dr. Steven C. Schlozman, this is your brain on zombies:

The Frontal Lobe

This part of the brain is involved with "executive functioning" - enabling us to think carefully and solve problems in an abstract way. Clearly, there's not much going on there if you have the misfortune of being afflicted with living deadness. But we do know that zombies can see us and sense us. Schlozman concludes that zombies possess just enough frontal lobe activity to "listen" to the thalamus, through which sensory input is processed.

But the frontal lobe function most relevant to understanding zombie behavior is the control of "impulsivity"-the general term for when you do something and, if you had two more seconds, you might not have done it. For instance, if in a fit of rage you have the sudden urge to punch your boss in the face, the frontal lobe intervenes and allows you to consider why that might be a bad idea.

The Amygdala and Anterior Cingulate Cortex

Absent a properly functioning frontal lobe, a zombie is driven entirely by base emotions - such as rage - that are housed in the primitive parts of our brain, notably the amygdala. There's precedence for this in nature. A crocodile brain, for instance, is mostly driven by the amygdala. Researchers have confirmed this by introducing lesions into the amygdala of animal specimens: the result is a drop in the attack and retreat response that correlates significantly with the amount of damage that's done to that region of the brain. A crocodile without an amygdala isn't really a crocodile. As such, Schlozman argues, "you can't really be mad at zombies, because that's like being mad at a crocodile," adding that it's the delicate balance between frontal lobe and amygdala "that makes us human."

That balance is maintained by the anterior cingulate cortex, which modulates and dampens the excitability of the amygdala as it talks to the frontal lobe. So, when the amygdala gets all stirred up by fear, anger or lust, the anterior cingulate cortex steps on it a little bit, giving the frontal lobe time to think everything through before it sends signals toward the motor cortex and we act upon those impulses.

A zombie would have a dysfunctional anterior cingulate cortex, rendering it unable to modulate feelings of anger. The result? Hyper-aggression.

The Cerebellum and the Basal Ganglia

Science may once and for all settle the heated debate over whether "the infected" in 28 Days Later could be classified as zombies.

Schlozman says "no," observing that "the infected" possess "some sort of higher cortical function going on that allows them to hunt humans." Moreover, the fake zombies in 28 Days Later exhibit fluidity of motion. They can run, jump, climb and quickly change direction-activities that the true Romero zombies are incapable of performing.

Clearly, zombies suffer from cerebellar and basal ganglia dysfunction (duh!). Those are the parts of the brain that make fluidity of motion possible. The basal ganglia helps us with coordinated movement. The cerebellum helps us with balance. In fact, if you visit the website of the National Institutes of Health and read about cerebellar degeneration (such as ataxia), the symptoms match the familiar gait of the living dead: "a wide-legged, unsteady, lurching walk, usually accompanied by a back and forth tremor in the trunk of the body…"

Mirror Neurons

This is recent, cutting-edge research in the field of neuroscience. Schlozman describes mirror neuron theory as a "neurobiological model for empathy, which suggests, in a very hopeful way, that we might be wired to connect with one another." Regions of the brain are recruited in response to social interactions in which we watch and thus experience the experiences of the "other."

As a press release issued by the European Science Foundation explains it: in
Just as the same mirror neurons fire when observing and doing certain tasks, so other mirror neurons may be triggered both when experiencing a particular emotion and when observing someone else with that emotion.
But, Schlozman asks, what if the things we're fighting have brains that are incapable of connecting? In response, we disconnect from each other. Schlozman quotes a veteran of the Battle of Yonkers in the book World War Z: "Shock and Awe! But what if the enemy can't be shocked and awed? Not just won't, but biologically can't?"

At the Battle of Yonkers, the humans hit the zombie horde with everything they've got. But the zombies keep coming. They don't look scared. They don't look excited. They don't look enraged. And that actually freaks out the humans more than anything else, prompting the humans to turn on each other.

Schlozman suggests that mirror neurons also help explain the popularity of the zombie genre among the living. While watching these movies, "we like the permission to look at these things that look human - but aren't human - and have utter and complete permission to blow their heads off." In other words, we get off on the thrill of guiltless violence. We enjoy a brief vacation from empathy, and take our crocodile brains out for a spin.

By way of example, I came across an interview with actor Mike Christopher Berhosky, who played the iconic Hare Krishna zombie in the 1978 movie, Dawn of the Dead. Berhosky describes the audience reaction to the film's screening:
I got bashed in the head and everyone CHEERED. Took the wind right outta' my sails. Everyone hated the Hare Krishna devotees for their incessant pestering and swarming them at the airports and such….Killing off my character had the effect of releasing a lot of pent up frustration….bashing in the Hare Krishna zombie's head was much more than getting rid of another pesky zombie…it was VENGEANCE.
But the fun lasts only up to a point. As the movies progress, Schlozman says, we start to feel uncomfortable with the loss of our humanity-that we are "so willing to forsake those mirror neurons."

The Ventromedial Hypothalamus

In the movies, zombies are always hungry, no matter how many supporting actors they consume. The most likely explanation is that zombies don't have a properly functioning ventromedial hypothalamus: the region of the brain that lets you know whether you've eaten enough. The result is hyperphagia. Zombies will eat and eat and eat, but never feel satiated.

That raises a slightly awkward question: If zombies are constantly eating, then how come they never poop?

Schlozman doesn't know for sure, but he has at least one promising theory: Maybe the living dead are constipated.

Now we know why zombies are always moaning.
Zombies moan because they are constipated? "rlol" "rlol" :smilelol5: :smilelol5: "rlol"

Now, obviously, this doctor delivered his lecture before the release of Zombieland, a movie in which the undead are clearly possessed of considerable athletic ability, and as demonstrated by Bill Murray, are easily fooled into believing you are undead if you can get your hands on some good makeup.

On the other hand, the Zombieland undead are drawn to the (ahem!) decidedly unconstipated, so maybe there is something to the above theory. (This causes one to wonder if perhaps just throwing some Exlax or some meat impregnated with some kind of purgative their way might lower their aggression levels. This certainly bears further investigations.)

"KNOW your enemy," I always say. Know him, and you can kill him. I used to be a proponent of the small caliber head shots with a .22 LR; but clearly, that is no longer sufficient. The .22 could penetrate the brain and still not destroy those parts of the brain that permit the undead to continue functioning. Obviously, more destructive power is called for. I'm not even sure that a .223 would be enough unless you were using a particularly explosive varmint bullet.

I think that bullets in .30 caliber and up with either soft points or some violently expanding hollowpoint are the better answer. Thus, even an old .30-30 loaded with soft pointed bullets becomes a mighty zombie-slayer. Better yet, a .45-70. ARs chambered in .308, .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, and .50 Beowulf would all be good choices — again being mindful of bullet design. Similarly M1As, FN-FALs, AK47s (leave the AK74s at home unless you have ammo loaded for varmint applications), Saiga .308s, HK-91/G3‎s, Cetme's, etc., would all be good choices as long as bullet type is taken into consideration.

Consider all FMJ to be worthless against zombies - except for perhaps .50 BMG. The judicious application of 800 grains at 2,850 fps can solve almost any problem.

I would consider all bolt rifles to be of secondary value against the undead for reasons of rate of fire — unless they are being used to snipe with from an impregnable position at standoff distances. The one exception to this might be the Mosin Nagant loaded with ammo from old Russian ammo battlepacks; which can then be used somewhat like a flamethrower to set zombies on fire with its muzzle blast. Of couse, you would have to be careful not to set fire to your surroundings while going about it.

Pistols are a weapon of last resort against a murderous and agile foe because the distances are just too close. If a "normal" human attacks you and you miss with your pistol, you still have a chance of survival, however small. A zombie is going to eat your butt, so the stakes are much higher. Given the rifle caliber requirements, I would urge a similar approach with pistol calibers. .22LR is out; .357 magnum, .40S&W, 10mm, .44 special, .45 ACP, and .44 magnum are all in. High capacity is better than low capacity. As much as it pains me to say it, I'm going to have to pick up a hi-cap Glock or H&K in .45 ACP, because capacity on my 1911s is just going to be too limiting.

I'm going to have to revise my family's zombie tactics in light of the above.
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Re: Weapon of choice for a zombie apocalypse

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TAM, I would have to vehemently disagree.

The whole point of Zombie-killing is experiencing the joy of killing Zombies. What can be more up-close and personal than pointing a .40 cal pistol at the offending Zombie forehead and blowing it away? No long-range sniper-kills for this maniac.

BTW, my response above alarms me.
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