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Re: concealed carry with dress shirts

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The Kramer Confidant works VERY well. It is a T-shirt type of garmet with underarm pockets. One side will hold the pistol and the other can hold an extra magazine. Definately get the full length.

Someone would have to frisk you to detect your pistol. Absolutely no bulk except for the pistol itself. I carried a Glock 30 and a Makarov with it. While I don't have to wear business dress at work, I have carried at dressier parties for my wife's work. Extremely discreet. It is not really to access the weapon as you have to unbutton or rip open your shirt and disengage a small velcro strap, but it is MUCH faster that having to run out to the car. It is reasonably comfortable and the weight distribution is OK. In fact, the extra mag under the opposite arm helps to balance the load.

Give it serious consideration if you MUST be discreet.

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frazzled wrote:A full size pistol is going to be terribly difficult to conceal on a daily basis with IWB. If you can’t wear a jacket and want to physically carry at all times I’d proffer:

1. Get a gun belt that works. Beltman and others have belts that fit the bill but also pass just fine as dress belts.

2. Get an IWB holster. Cross breed and Minotaur make excellent models.

3. I’d recommend getting a smaller pistol for that daily carry. Kahr and Walther both make excellent single column 9mms that are an inch or less thick and weigh 19 ounces or less. There are also several double column sub compacts as well (Glock, Springfield’s XD, Beretta, Taurus, RUger, and Sig off hand) that are also lightweight.
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cougartex wrote:
frazzled wrote:A full size pistol is going to be terribly difficult to conceal on a daily basis with IWB. If you can’t wear a jacket and want to physically carry at all times I’d proffer:

1. Get a gun belt that works. Beltman and others have belts that fit the bill but also pass just fine as dress belts.

2. Get an IWB holster. Cross breed and Minotaur make excellent models.

3. I’d recommend getting a smaller pistol for that daily carry. Kahr and Walther both make excellent single column 9mms that are an inch or less thick and weigh 19 ounces or less. There are also several double column sub compacts as well (Glock, Springfield’s XD, Beretta, Taurus, RUger, and Sig off hand) that are also lightweight.
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Good gun belt will make a big difference.
I forgot to note both Kimber and Springfield make absolutely excellent ~25 ouncish subcompact .45ACPs for those who believe peace through flying ashcans is where its at.
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dcm wrote:I am new to the CC world and would love to have some advice. I have a P220 and P226...both full frame guns. My work requires me to wear dress slacks, shirt and tie. Jackets aren't usually an option in my work place. I am working to figure out if I can conceal either of these guns or if I need to get something more compact. Does anyone have suggestions on what type of holster system would work for this attire? Thanks in advance
Welcome to the wonderful world of CC.

While working for my previous company, I regularly carried my full size P229 in a CompTac M-Tac tuckable holster, with dress shirt tucked in, and never had a problem. One thing that always helps is patterned dress shirts.
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Have you looked at this

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I have heard great things on the undergear shirt.

Hope you find something!

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One more for the MTAC. I currently carry a G26 in an MTAC holster. It is tuckable but I've never tried. I wear a sports coat to finalize the conceal. For summer There are silk sports coats, which are still pretty cool.
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I'm a happy camper with the supertuck also
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Re: concealed carry with dress shirts

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cougartex wrote:
frazzled wrote:A full size pistol is going to be terribly difficult to conceal on a daily basis with IWB. If you can’t wear a jacket and want to physically carry at all times I’d proffer:

1. Get a gun belt that works. Beltman and others have belts that fit the bill but also pass just fine as dress belts.

2. Get an IWB holster. Cross breed and Minotaur make excellent models.

3. I’d recommend getting a smaller pistol for that daily carry. Kahr and Walther both make excellent single column 9mms that are an inch or less thick and weigh 19 ounces or less. There are also several double column sub compacts as well (Glock, Springfield’s XD, Beretta, Taurus, RUger, and Sig off hand) that are also lightweight.
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Good gun belt will make a big difference.
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Good belt and a tuckable holster with double struts (Crossbreed or MTAC) will allow you to conceal almost any handgun under a dress shirt. But also know that this is not necessarily the most comfortable method of carry with a full size semi auto, nor will it offer you a very fast draw if you ever need your gun. I too would recommend a smaller pistol for either tucked carry or even smaller for pocket carry. A snubnose revolver would work well in both roles. A Smith & Wesson J-frame Airweight or the new Ruger LCR will disappear in a tuckable holster or in most pocket carry situations. Or if you need the utmost in concealment, a Ruger LCP or Kel Tec or similar palm-sized .380 is almost unnoticable in a pocket holster.

For what's it's worth, I've carried my Glock 23 tucked on occasion (which is smaller than OP's Sig), but it's a heckuva lot easier and more comfortable to carry my Walther PPS tucked than even a mid-size Glock.

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Re: concealed carry with dress shirts

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A snubnose revolver would work well
Despite the widespread inadvisability of it, a snub nose revolver does carry very well simply stuck in the waistband under a belt. The J frame is more comfortable, but I do it with an L frame also, which really rides better with the larger grip. Taking it up a notch, there is this:
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casingpoint wrote:Most IWB's seem to position the gun too high to effectively cover with a shirt, especially if you move a round a lot.
I adjusted the clips on my MTAC so that the grip is just above the belt line. Granted I carry my G27 in it, so there's not much sticking out anyway.

I've carried at church for a few years now, but only recently acquired the MTAC. My wife thought I stopped carrying at church. I guess I've had it for about 2 months and she just noticed me carrying last Sunday after we came back home and I was changing out of my church clothes. I've done shirt and tie and tucked and untucked polo style shirt. There are several LEO's at my church and I'm friends with a few. None of them know I carry. There just hasn't been a good reason or occasion to bring it up. One of them was sitting behind me this past Sunday and either didn't notice or hasn't said anything about it to me.
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I will chime in on this one. I have carried my full size 9 mm tucked in the car at 5 o'clock. Gets in the way everywhere else except at 7 o'clock. After 4 hours of driving, it starts bothering me. Never any problem with my J-frame airlite in an "in the pocket" holster (right front).

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Agree with the change of dress for carrying concealed. One more for the M-tac with both a 1911 or XD45 compact, no problem with a tucked dress shirt. I carry full time, unless in the Post Office :) .

I did go up one size in shirts so they blouse more, and 2" in pants for CCW with IWB. I also have a little LCP that can carry in shorts or the normal sized clothes in a front pocket, no problem.
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TLE2 wrote:One more for the MTAC. I currently carry a G26 in an MTAC holster. It is tuckable but I've never tried. I wear a sports coat to finalize the conceal. For summer There are silk sports coats, which are still pretty cool.
I suggest the MTAC as well. It works great for even an oversize pistol, and as expected does wonders for a compact model.
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RiverRat wrote:Agree with the change of dress for carrying concealed. One more for the M-tac with both a 1911 or XD45 compact, no problem with a tucked dress shirt. I carry full time, unless in the Post Office :) .
This brings up another inconvenience with tucked concealed carry. What if you have to leave gun in the car temporarily during the day? If you run to post office, you have to untuck, remove gun, then go find a private place (restroom) to reholster and retuck. Don't know about y'all, but I can't retuck my shirt around my gun/holster while sitting in the car. Reholster the gun, sure? But not retuck the shirt.

And I often have to do this twice a day (dropping off and picking up my kids at preschool) - can be a real inconvenience/time waster. Often if I know I'm going to have to remove my pistol during the day for some reason, I end up choosing pocket carry or (if possible) going untucked for the day.

I like having the ability to carry tucked, but it's not a cure all for me.
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