...not in Texas...at least not in the 28 years I've been here carrying one...you ever hear of anyone going to jail for carrying a stick in Texas??? I'd like to read it...there's a lot of difference between a stick and a club...which'd be illegal, concealed or not...ninemm wrote:In a lot of places you'd have to conceal the stick.speedsix wrote:...I carry a stout stick for any situation that hasn't justified the use of a gun...if I wanted a spray, I'd grab my son's AXE deoderant...that stuff's got pepper spray beat hands down...
Can't Defend Against 'Gators and Snakes?
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ddstuder wrote:eureka40 wrote:It's good for squirrels, grackles, you name it. And it's quiet.speedsix wrote:eureka40 wrote:This is my go to snake gun for around the house. Safe for use in the neighborhood.
http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=71" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...neat...is it powerful enough to take a squirrel??? is it loud??? never saw an air shotgun...oughta be the cat's meow for a rat in the attic, too...
And it looks like it is unavailable for purchase!
...you left out "...on this website." ...however... http://www.airgundepot.com/gamo-viper-e ... eview.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Can't Defend Against 'Gators and Snakes?
The Gamo Viper Express air shotgun appears to still be available here.
A number of other sites show it as discontinued.
This video from PyramidAir, a sizable and well respected retailer of airguns, highlights performance and durability issues with the gun that suggest it's not yet ready for prime time.
A number of other sites show it as discontinued.
This video from PyramidAir, a sizable and well respected retailer of airguns, highlights performance and durability issues with the gun that suggest it's not yet ready for prime time.
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Re: Can't Defend Against 'Gators and Snakes?
Excaliber wrote:The Gamo Viper Express air shotgun appears to still be available here.
A number of other sites show it as discontinued.
This video from PyramidAir, a sizable and well respected retailer of airguns, highlights performance and durability issues with the gun that suggest it's not yet ready for prime time.
...I suspect glowing reviews are often affected by how many you have in stock to get rid of...Gamo's not up there with Beeman, Crosman, or Benjamin quality anyways...
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If you watch the video, I think it would be fair to call PyramidAir's review more flaming than glowing. They didn't pull any punches about what they thought of a gun that couldn't shoot 200 rounds without blowing out the main air seal.speedsix wrote:Excaliber wrote:The Gamo Viper Express air shotgun appears to still be available here.
A number of other sites show it as discontinued.
This video from PyramidAir, a sizable and well respected retailer of airguns, highlights performance and durability issues with the gun that suggest it's not yet ready for prime time.
...I suspect glowing reviews are often affected by how many you have in stock to get rid of...Gamo's not up there with Beeman, Crosman, or Benjamin quality anyways...
They say they received more correspondence on that gun than on any other, and show it as "discontinued" on their web site. They apparently don't want their reputation attached to something that flaky.
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...and if you read my link, you'll read the glowing review that I was referring to, which is, like I said, probably directly related to the amount of product they still have in stock...
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Re: Can't Defend Against 'Gators and Snakes?
I've had that Gamo Viper Express air shotgun for about 2 years now and have had no problems. My friend that I learned about it from has had his longer and actually uses the heck out of it. He's never had any problems with his. So I don't know about all this bad review stuff. All I know is from first hand experience is they work fine.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add, my friend even does his own reloads for the thing. I know for a fact he has had good luck with it.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add, my friend even does his own reloads for the thing. I know for a fact he has had good luck with it.
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We crossed videos - one for and one against.speedsix wrote:...and if you read my link, you'll read the glowing review that I was referring to, which is, like I said, probably directly related to the amount of product they still have in stock...
It looks like folks who have older ones are fairly happy with them, and there seem to be issues with some of the newer ones.
I don't need or want one, so I'm happy to let all the dust settle and just read reports from other folks.
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...like everything else...quality ain't gettin' better...
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Re: Can't Defend Against 'Gators and Snakes?
This thought process went through my head when I opened my back door to find a three foot moccasin on the ground. I had my .38 pointed at him, but decided against it for your stated reasons. There was a sharpshooter within easy reach which yielded the desired result.Excaliber wrote:Firing SD ammo at the ground to try to kill a snake within a few feet of you is a great way to:
1) Make a lot of noise and use a lot of ammo without hitting that small moving critter
2) Produce lots of ricochets from the type of ground they often inhabit, particularly with our drought hardened soil
3) Keep you occupied long enough to thoroughly tick off the snake, convince him he's got nothing to lose, and get bitten.
If you need to dispatch the animal (a rare circumstance unless a poisonous snake is someplace where it presents a real risk someone who isn't messing with it will get bitten), a shovel or stick longer than the snake's striking range is a much safer and more effective way to go about it.
Since buying my Bond, I had yet to find a proper use for it. It is now my BUG pocket gun loaded with 3" #4s.
On a separate note, the contractor that mows our shooting range said he had never seen as many snakes as last Monday.
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