I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
Out of curiosity, what do you use for "plinking" ammo?
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
Out of curiosity, what do you use for "plinking" ammo?
When it comes to plinking ammo, my main consideration right now is COST. I'm a military "retiree" who is going back to school for a certification (Aircraft Mechanic Airframe and Powerplant). So, I have very little "extra" money. I'll shoot Federal Champion, PMC, Sellier and Bellot, MFS, Prvi Partizan, Wolf, Herters, "military surplus", pretty much anything as long as its cheap and goes bang...I clean my weapons after every range session, so I'm not worried about how dirty my firearms get. I don't CARRY the cheap stuff, though. What I meant by buying Remington or Federal for quality ammo is their higher end self-defense rounds.
Anyone else have any problems with this UMC stuff? That's what I picked up the other day for my .45 and put 50 rounds through it without any problems.
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Not only would we like to know which range but that particular range owner needs to know what his staff is shoveling.
Ray F.
Luke 22:35-38 "Gear up boys, I gotta go and it's gonna get rough." JC
-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."
C-dub wrote:Anyone else have any problems with this UMC stuff? That's what I picked up the other day for my .45 and put 50 rounds through it without any problems.
I wouldn't worry about shooting it. I've gone through several boxes of .40 S&W and this has been my first and only problem. I know several other people who shoot it in various calibers (.40, .45, 9mm, etc) and problems are few and far between. I'm going to continue using it for range ammo.
TDDude wrote:Not only would we like to know which range but that particular range owner needs to know what his staff is shoveling.
The range in question was Top Gun. I'll be writing a full review in the appropriate section sometime soon.
There, now that wasn't so hard was it???
Ray F.
Luke 22:35-38 "Gear up boys, I gotta go and it's gonna get rough." JC
-- Darrell Royal, former UT football coach - "If worms carried pistols, birds wouldn't eat 'em."
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
NcongruNt wrote:I had the same thing happen a couple years back with a 9mm round out of a 100-round bulk box of WWB.
Unlike Remington, Winchester provides no avenue for contact. I checked their site - no phone number, no contact form, no e-mail address, nothing. I think I was finally able to find a snail mail address, but that seemed pretty worthless. Nowadays, I suppose I could complain on their Facebook page or Twitter, but those are hardly proper avenues for initial contact regarding a malfunctioning/unsafe product. I haven't purchased Winchester handgun ammo since.
I initially doubted you...what modern company doesn't have contact info (even if the service isn't all that great)? Well, indeed, Winchester does NOT seem to have any decent contact information associated with their webpage. So, my apologies on doubting you. It won't stop me from buying their ammunition if I get a good deal...but if I have the choice and the price difference isn't much, I'll go with Remington or Federal if I'm buying quality (non-plinking) ammunition.
Where did you happen to come upon this information?
I think I found it buried in a phone menu tree under Winchester's main number. A Google search of the number shows that other people have had a hard time finding it as well.
Dropped the rest of the box in the mail on Friday with the prepaid label that Remington shipped me. According to the tracking, it arrived at Remington's factory today. They said they would perform some tests on the remainder and send me a letter explaining what they had found. With that letter is supposed to be either a brand new box (250 pack) of replacement ammo or a complete reimbursement. I expect this to take a few days or maybe even a couple of weeks.
Again, I'll post what happens when I hear from them.
You have to just say what range. Then go ahead and do another post with a full review.
