Pocket guns... Shed some light please!

[Mike1951]

Just watched a video at http://www.downrangetv.com about some new Taurus products.

The Judge now handles 3" mag .410 shells instead of just 2 1/2".
A lightweight version of the Judge.
A 38 snub with titanium cylinder and barrel, but a magnesium frame.
It weighs 12oz!

[PX]

My opinion & some think it is woth exactly what I sell it for.
If you want a KelTec, I think one that is used, been back to the factory, you can shoot & verify reliable is worth more than a new one. About half are going back.

MY opinion, probably worth about the same as yours...

I have a KelTec P32 and a P11. I have had both for a couple of years and neither have given me one problem. Both have been 100% reliable, and self defense accurate..

I disagree with you in that I would not recommend a "used" KT... At one time KT Customer Service warranted their products for a lifetime whether you were the original purchaser or not. My understanding is that is NOT the case any longer.

Go ahead and pay the $250 (more or less) and buy NEW... Take it home, clean it and shoot the daylights out of it until you are satisfied it is 100% reliable.. Then load it up and cc to your hearts content. Every few months shoot out the old ammo, reload and you are good to go.

If you have the misfortune to get a lemon, and that can happen, call for a shipping tag, send it back for a fix. Should be free, no charge, and check it out all over again. KelTec has an excellent customer service reputation and they are producing thousands and thousands and thousands of the P32's/P3AT's/PF-9's and P11's... Whoever said about half of them go back to be fixed is full of crap.

Keltecs are by their nature designed to be carried a lot and shot a little. They are extremely small and light, and inexpensive...... Understand that, get a good one, and go about your business.

They are NOT target pistols, nor are the pistols for marathon shoot-off's.. They are a last defense self protection firearm, and do a darn good job.

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy

[lrb111]

I have a Taurus PT22. It does on occasion have light strikes with CCI stingers. I just pull the trigger again.

The only real down side to the gun, after break in, is the magazines. They are finicky with the lips. If they are set right no prob. But i can drop one, or stick it in a pocket and get it against something hard like keys or a knife, and feed problems will arise.

I'm going to get Taurus to send me some standard flat grips for mine. I fell in love with the beautiful rosewood sculpted ones mine had, but they are a little large.

With CCI hollow points it will blow holes in light steel at 15 yards. I'm ok with it as a belly gun or a BUG.

[Moonpie]

Take a serious look at a Seecamp.
Presently they are making two calibers(.32 and .380)
The .32 retails for around $400 and the .380 twice that. The .380's are "the" hot thing right now so price/availibilty are crazy.
They are very small and conceal most anywhere.
Totally stainless so sweat/rust isn't usually a problem.
They are ammo sensitive but if you stay wih the recommended ammo you should be fine.
Mine eats the cheapo WW white box stuff just fine for practice.
NOTE: Recoil with the .32 is brisk. In a .380 its a bit much for extended shooting.
They are a pure belly gun. No sights. Short distance only.
Extremely well made.
I never leave home without it.

http://www.seecamp.com/

http://www.seecamp.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl

[Longshot]

+1 on airweignt snub -- mine is a 638 with CT405 grips. Under 2" at 10yards shooting the little red dot.