Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I have a LC9 and a 238. The LC9 sits in the safe. The 238 sees use.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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You might wait until your CHL comes in before grabbing a pocket gun. See how you actually carry your other firearms. . . spend some money on a gun belt, a couple of quality holster options, etc.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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fickman wrote:You might wait until your CHL comes in before grabbing a pocket gun. See how you actually carry your other firearms. . . spend some money on a gun belt, a couple of quality holster options, etc.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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RPB wrote:
fickman wrote:You might wait until your CHL comes in before grabbing a pocket gun. See how you actually carry your other firearms. . . spend some money on a gun belt, a couple of quality holster options, etc.
:iagree:
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I have a LC9 for the times I have to pocket carry but the stock trigger is a long pull. However that is fixable if you don't mind some minor modifications.

The Shield and the PPS are both too big for pocket carry and I haven't quite gotten into carrying a small gun in the 1911 style condition 1. I have heard a lot of good things about the small SIg and the Beretta Nano, but work with your primary carry gun first. Now that I have a holster I really enjoy I rarely find a need to carry anything other than my M&Pc.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I carry an LC9 daily, either pocket carry with a desantis nemesis, or 4 o'clock inside the pants depending on my clothing for the day. I thought I would share a few observations:

Reliability: In the 5 months I've been carrying the LC9 I've put just over 1500 rounds through it without a single malfunction. The bulk of that ammo has been speer lawman, but has also included monarch brass cased, wolf steel cased, WWB, and Double Tap 115gr +p.
Recoil: Felt recoil is very strong for a 9mm, but manageable. I've shot up to 500 rounds in a single range session, but it wasn't much fun after 200 or so.
Trigger: It's bad, really bad. The initial grittiness has gone away but the travel and weight are both extremely high. I keep looking for galloway to start shipping their trigger mods again, because I don't want to send my daily carry off for modifications. (If anyone knows a good gunsmith in Houston who works on LC9 triggers I'd love to hear about them). Plan to put in a lot of practice time with this gun to get comfortable with the trigger.
Size: The LC9 disappears into my pocket, even with the magazine pinky extension (a must for bigger hands)

All in all I would recommend it to anyone looking for an affordable reliable pocket sized 9mm. That being said I would recommend the Sig P938 to anyone willing to spend more money on their pocket 9. I've shot one and the trigger is much better.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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Geaux_loaded wrote:LC9 . . . That being said I would recommend the Sig P938 to anyone willing to spend more money on their pocket 9. I've shot one and the trigger is much better.
Even for larger hands? (I know gguess. . . sort of related to him. . . I'm about 6'5" and he's probably 6'2" or so. . . )

I'm asking because of this thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=61882
blackgold wrote:Need ideas on saving skin-big hands, small gun

I bought a sig p938 recently. I love the gun, love shooting it except that every time I shoot it, the webbing of my hand gets eaten up by the slide. . .
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I am going to wait till I get my CHL before buying another gun, however I am also waiting o see the Springfield XDs in a 9. But right now leaning towards he sig P938. I think, a lot can change.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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All,
This would be a great conversation to have sitting around the fire in someone's backyard or ranch! All the opinions are great because they are just that, opinions, not right or wrong just personal observations. I personally would love to have the opportunity to sit and hear, compare and show gun choices, holsters, ammo and carry options. However, I guess online will have to suffice.
#gguess66 - there are a lot of good suggestions and info to glean from this thread so far. Examples: try before you buy if possible. Where you can/will carry: pocket, boot, IWB/OWB, pant/pocket size, etc. It all comes into play and like most, you will probably end up with multiple sidearms for different situations.
Someone mentioned investing in a good gun belt and holster. Absolutely agree, keep trying/buying until you find the ones that work for you.
Pants pockets: I also have Duluth Trading jeans that have the bigger pockets. Great jeans in general for anyone, especially we big people. I can drop my 9mm into the pocket and go but would rather have my holster on a belt for long periods of time.
Gun size/hand size: obviously there is no absolute answer. It's just what fits your hand and what you can accurately shoot with what fits. I am a relatively big guy with thick hands but want a slim sidearm that is easy to conceal and doesn't print in either pocket or 3 o'clock holster. I had several on my list to try that are included in some of the suggestions on this post. What fit my hand and shot most accurately for me was the Walther PPS 9mm. It's a very tightly manufactured weapon and less than an inch thin but the grip is wide from front to back so it feels solid in the hand. Very accurate and easy to holster-unholster. And by what I have read is the new CCW for the Seals.
AND, if Texas legislature could get the open Cary law passed then we could all sit around and compare our fancy holsters.
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#gguess66 - good post question!
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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fickman wrote:
Geaux_loaded wrote:LC9 . . . That being said I would recommend the Sig P938 to anyone willing to spend more money on their pocket 9. I've shot one and the trigger is much better.
Even for larger hands? (I know gguess. . . sort of related to him. . . I'm about 6'5" and he's probably 6'2" or so. . . )

I'm asking because of this thread: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=61882
blackgold wrote:Need ideas on saving skin-big hands, small gun

I bought a sig p938 recently. I love the gun, love shooting it except that every time I shoot it, the webbing of my hand gets eaten up by the slide. . .

I didn't shot the p938 enough to hurt my hands, just enough to figure out the trigger was much better than my LC9. I am 6'1" and have big hands, the LC9 has pretty stiff recoil but it hasn't torn up my skin.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I've not gotten to handle a Shield yet, but I've shot the Kahr, LC9 and PPS. PPS got my $$$ when it came down to it. I like the feel of the LC9 but the trigger was a deal breaker. The Kahr was nice to shoot but I preferred the PPS. Really the only complaint that I have is that it doesn't fit my hand quite as well as the Ruger, but the trigger makes all the difference and then some. Having the exact same manual of arms as my glock also is rather nice.
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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I have a Shield in 9mm. The quality is fantastic. Very well built pistol. I carry mine in either a Galco Stinger (OWB holster) or a Galco Stow-n-Go (IWB holster).

I have given thought to selling my Shield since I prefer my Glock 33 more. I have bigger hands and the thinner profile doesn't suit me as well as the thicker G33. It isn't uncomfortable to shot, it just doesn't feel as good to me as a gun with a bigger profile. It isn't a gun I would like to take to the range and burn 100-150 rounds in one afternoon, but for an occasional range trip, its more than fine.

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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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Just picked up a P938 this weekend. Took it to the range Saturday and put about 200 rounds through it. 115 and 124 grain, both ball and JHP rounds with no issues. Bought it for the Mrs. and she loved it. She has small hands and a weak grip in her left hand but she shot it with no problem. I think it's a great choice. Also have a Bersa BP9CC. She wanted that one first but didn't like the trigger. Good news for me because I LOVE the thing. Has shot different rounds with no issues and is dead on in accuracy. Loved it so much I'm going to start carrying it when I find a good holster for it. Just my 2 cents. I have big hands also but didn't get the slide bite you have. Hope it works out for you. Try the Bersa if you get a chance.

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Re: Small carry gun Shield, LC 9, or a small Sig

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I pocket carry a Kahr CM9 in a Desantis Nemasis holster. Works great!! Light, conceals great and a pleasure to actually shoot. Baby Glocks (and even the Shield) are too big to pocket carry to me. Have a Sig 238 and DB280, but they sit in the safe since I got the CM9. As suggested, go rent and shoot the ones you're interested in. Good luck!!
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