What is a jam?Russell wrote:Went shootin' today, decided to get the absolute cheapest rounds I could get at Academy because, well, you don't need expensive rounds to target practice.
I usually get CCI Blazer for the XD-9, and she loves 'em. Never had a jam, missfire, anything. Yeah, the rounds are dirty and I have to clean her afterwards, but the price savings is worthit.
Monarch's were about 50 cents cheaper this time so I decided to try them instead, and ended up giving a full and 3/4 full box away at the range, as I got 10 rounds in and the 11th jammed, 12th jammed, and 13th round misfired. I wasn't very happy.
So I do advise against Monarch for future ammo purchases. Couldn't even call them "ok" quality.
Ugh, monarch rounds = no thanks
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WAs this stuff in a box, or was it wrapped in some paper?
I've had better luck wth Monarch .223 in real boxes, but the .223 wrapped in paper was awful.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm taking about the Serbian brass stuff.
I've had better luck wth Monarch .223 in real boxes, but the .223 wrapped in paper was awful.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm taking about the Serbian brass stuff.
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Te, a drink with jam and bread...txinvestigator wrote:What is a jam?Russell wrote:Went shootin' today, decided to get the absolute cheapest rounds I could get at Academy because, well, you don't need expensive rounds to target practice.
I usually get CCI Blazer for the XD-9, and she loves 'em. Never had a jam, missfire, anything. Yeah, the rounds are dirty and I have to clean her afterwards, but the price savings is worthit.
Monarch's were about 50 cents cheaper this time so I decided to try them instead, and ended up giving a full and 3/4 full box away at the range, as I got 10 rounds in and the 11th jammed, 12th jammed, and 13th round misfired. I wasn't very happy.
So I do advise against Monarch for future ammo purchases. Couldn't even call them "ok" quality.
I've heard nothing but bad things about Monarch ammo though...
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As I understand it, there are two varieties of Monarch sold by Academy.
One is a steel cased version, produced in Russia.
The other is a brass cased version, produced in Serbia.
If that is correct, I think we should know which one is being discussed.
One is a steel cased version, produced in Russia.
The other is a brass cased version, produced in Serbia.
If that is correct, I think we should know which one is being discussed.
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So it failed to extract? Was the extractor still in front of the groove?Russell wrote:They were in a box.
By jam I meant it fired the round, but couldn't eject the spent cartridge or feed the next one in. The cartridge would get stuck kinda halfway in the chamber.
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the steel cased Monarch 9mm is the only case I've ever had problems with. It would not clear the slide sometimes. So, the spent case would be caught between edge of the ejection port and the barrel. Held at both ends, as if put in a vise.
The pistol has run thousands of rounds with no problem, until the Monarch.
The pistol has run thousands of rounds with no problem, until the Monarch.
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Russell - no one is born knowing all this stuff. We all had to learn somewhere! Full Metal Jacket, or FMJ, refers to the lead bullet being jacketed in copper. The copper jacket helps it to feed better in your semi-auto and reduces lead fouling in the barrel.Russell wrote:As far as the full metal jacket having nothing to do with the case, sorry if I sound like a dunce I'm still learning as this is my first handgun purchase ever What does "full metal jacket" mean then?
The important thing to learn is that cheaper is not always better when it comes to ammo. You have an expensive firearm, feed it well.