Let's talk about knives

[Excaliber]

TAM, I've added the M21 to my stable of folders as well, I consider it the next best thing to a fixed blade based on the double lock and the 'tang' that deploys with the blade.

I have become partial to the CRKT line of knives.

I did slip off the wagon and order a new carry knife this week, I'll share it when it shows up.

I think CRKT has the best balance of innovative designs, quality, and price. I've got several of them and am very pleased with all. After about 7 years of daily carry I plain wore out an M16-13Z to the point where the blade started to wobble and couldn't be tightened any more. I sent it back under warranty and CRKT just sent me a brand new one.

It doesn't get any better than that.

[SATX-Scrub]

Lemme know how much you're going to sell that barrage for. I just got my griptillian and.. I dunno. I feel like it's like a lower class benchmade knife. Kind of like how a Sog flash1 is to other Sog knives.

Lemme know!!

PM sent

[goose]

If a guy bum-rushes you and pins you back against the hood of a Camry, odds are you can’t get to your handgun. If you could, it would be a weak draw and might be easily taken away.

Knives, especially folders, are usually carried clipped in a front pocket. I’d suggest that be high in the offhand pocket.

Why? Because if you carry your gun strong-side hip or appendix, you can protect it by clamping your arm over it and using the blade in your off-hand to disable or fend off your attacker long enough—far enough—to deploy your firearm.

That’s the purpose of a blade: to fight back to your handgun.

I was also a bit confused (short sighted) as to why a knife might be a CHL’s first option. This was a good explanation. I need to think about a weak side pocket knife of some sort. And at a minimum, drawing and unfolding practice, weak handed.

[Gunner4640]

My daily carry knife:

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Applegate/Fairbairn Covert folder.

My dad actually just mailed me the fixed blade I carried overseas - a Cold Steel SRK. I'd left it there for my little nephew, but he moved to the UK where they'd probably wet themselves if they saw it, so dad is sending it back:

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Yea cold steel makes the Recon-1 a tanto blade and great knife. I saw a demo of a Navy Seal using one on a ballistic gel dummy he tore it up in less than 15 seconds, believe me if it was a real person most of him would have fallen out on the ground. Hoping to get one for Christmas.

[Skiprr]

If a guy bum-rushes you and pins you back against the hood of a Camry, odds are you can’t get to your handgun. If you could, it would be a weak draw and might be easily taken away.

Knives, especially folders, are usually carried clipped in a front pocket. I’d suggest that be high in the offhand pocket.

Why? Because if you carry your gun strong-side hip or appendix, you can protect it by clamping your arm over it and using the blade in your off-hand to disable or fend off your attacker long enough—far enough—to deploy your firearm.

That’s the purpose of a blade: to fight back to your handgun.

I was also a bit confused (short sighted) as to why a knife might be a CHL’s first option. This was a good explanation. I need to think about a weak side pocket knife of some sort. And at a minimum, drawing and unfolding practice, weak handed.

Thanks, Goose.

Someone PMed me on this topic asking about pepper spray. In my opinion, OC can be very useful if you are practiced at deploying it and it's a stream-type dispersion system fired at a reasonable distance (and in the correct wind conditions). Using OC at contact distance is just as likely to put the irritant in your own face--and on your hands--as the assailant's. This is problematic with one attacker, but can become catastrophic with multiple assailants.

That an outside-the-home assault is most likely to occur at very close distances is also one reason I do not recommend small-of-back carry, despite everything we see in the movies. Cross-draw comes in at second worst, shoulder holster at third.

Job one if you're physically assaulted: do not give up your firearm.

If someone tries to reach for your holstered firearm, the instinctive--and correct--reaction is to blade your body away from the aggressor and clamp your forearm over the gun. That works if you're carrying from appendix to four o'clock (for right-handers; to eight o'clock for left-handers). You cannot protect your holstered weapon if you're carrying small-of-back. Shoulder-holster carry means you'll need to fight dominant side forward, which is awkward for most.

A lot of knife guys say that you should be able to reach your blade with either hand and with either front or back carry. Yeah right. Get back to me on that. I'm not 30 years old, and I'm not that flexible.

My choice is EDC firearm on the right hip and a blade high on the left pocket.

The blade is always the second choice. But I'd rather have it than not.

[C-dub]

The tip of my Blur broke off. I think I know when it happened, but am not sure. It might have been a few weeks ago, while visiting my parents, and I was digging a couple slugs out of some tree trunks I was using for a backstop. So, I'm looking for a new EDC knife.

About all these $100+ knives, have any of you broken the tip off of one of them before? How about one of those SOG knives, like the Trident or something? Is there any kind of warranty or anything that they would replace it if the tip breaks off?

[kenobi]

I like my La Griffe too much to use it to pry bullets out of trees.

[C-dub]

I like my La Griffe too much to use it to pry bullets out of trees.

I didn't think much about it at the time. It went nearly all the way through an approximately 10" trunk and it knocked the bark off the other side. I could see the bullet and figured I'd just dig a tiny bit and pry it out. It did come out pretty easy. I just didn't notice the tip until a few days ago.

[AdioSS]

The Blur has a relatively thin tip. In that price range have you considered the ZT0350? They are close in size. http://kershawguy.com/products-page/zt-blems/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[C-dub]

The Blur has a relatively thin tip. In that price range have you considered the ZT0350? They are close in size. http://kershawguy.com/products-page/zt-blems/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've looked at most of the knives recommended in this thread. Knowing that the Blur has a relatively thin tip makes me a little relieved since I had it for 3-4 years and only paid about $50 for it. That's why I was asking about others like the SOG knives. I thought I would consider something a bit tougher. The NRA has a nice looking deal on three of the SOG Trident knives for $90 a piece.

[C-dub]

While checking on several of these knives on the web last night, I noticed that Walmart carries several of the SOG knives. I already knew the had the Blur because that's where I bought mine from. On my way in to work this morning I needed a couple of things and had the urge to check for ammo while there.

There were about 12 boxes of 333 rnd Winchester .22LR, 10 boxes of WWB 9mm, .40, and .45 and several boxes of American Eagle 90 rnd 5.56. I got three of the 333 boxes and noticed a SOG Trident and Blur in the knife case. Thought about the Blur again since I've had that one and liked it. They had the Tiger stripped one for $60. The Trident was $50. The Trident is lighter, had the slightly higher ride placement of the belt clip, and has the cutter thing when the knife is closed. There blade can also be locked when closed, but I'm not sure how useful that will be yet.

Anyway, I went ahead and bought the Trident and carried it around in my slacks pocket all day. Because I was in slacks I did not use the belt clip and just had it all the way down in the pocket. Due to it's lighter weight, it was very comfortable like this. I could not carry the Blur around like this because of it being heavier and flopping around too much when walking.

Another knife I looked at and am interested in is the Cold Steel Recon 1 with a tanto blade either plain or half serrated. Nice looking knife! I didn't see that at Walmart, but rather while looking around the web last night.

[nyj]

Had a SOG multi-tool and the knife snapped in half going straight into my hand. Never again. I'll stick with Kershaw if I want cheap.

[mud farmer]

There were about 12 boxes of 333 rnd Winchester .22LR, 10 boxes of WWB 9mm, .40, and .45 and several boxes of American Eagle 90 rnd 5.56. I got three of the 333 boxes and noticed a SOG Trident and Blur in the knife case. Thought about the Blur again since I've had that one and liked it. They had the Tiger stripped one for $60. The Trident was $50.

How much was the 22 ammo?

[C-dub]

There were about 12 boxes of 333 rnd Winchester .22LR, 10 boxes of WWB 9mm, .40, and .45 and several boxes of American Eagle 90 rnd 5.56. I got three of the 333 boxes and noticed a SOG Trident and Blur in the knife case. Thought about the Blur again since I've had that one and liked it. They had the Tiger stripped one for $60. The Trident was $50.

How much was the 22 ammo?

<$12/333 round box before tax.