Beretta Storm PX4 SC WARNING

[RockingRook]

Mostly the slide will not lock back using both the stock 13 round mags, as well as the stock 15 round mags. Not sure if it may be the ammo (9mm steel cased monarch )

I hope you do not have this issue either. It is really disheartening. About your problem above. I have had nothing but trouble with Monarch ammo. It is really dirty, I have had numerous FTEs, FTFs
as well as numerous times the gun would not lock back after the last shot. I think your problem is the ammo. I fire WWB, PMC, MagTech and never have had an issue to the extent of the problems that I had
with monarch ammo. I think the lock back problem may be due to QC issues of the powder loads. I was told a couple years back by the local range operator that the gun blew up using
Monarch. Cannot verify it but that is what the range master told me. I have never bought or used that brand again.

Chuck

[RockingRook]

I sent it Fed EX 3 day estimated delivery is 7/13. I took the gun to Fed Ex in it's carry box. They gave me a Fed Ex box, and I put it in the Fed Ex box. They said $26!!

If I would have sent it 2 day they said it would cost 60 some odd $$

That is all I know.

Chuck

[RockingRook]

Below is the email I just sent off to the repair shop. Someone asked how come it only cost $26 to ship. I sent it 3day. 2 day would have been $60+.
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From Charles Ventimiglia Sat Jul 9 11:29:06 2011
Beretta PX4 Storm SC 9MM
From:Charles Ventimiglia <chuckventimiglia@sbcglobal.net>
To: customerservice@midwestgunworks.com

Yesterday I sent my Beretta PX4 SC to you via Fed Ex. The estimated delivery date to you is 13 July.

I enclosed a note in the case with the problem I have. The gun is less than 2 months old and the take down pin came out
while firing and the slide came off. I did not check the slide for any damage when it came off and hit the table. Can you please
do so and if any finish came off can that be restored? If not that is fine as well, I just would like that gun fixed ad in working order.

You will receive the gun assembled with the take down pin in place.

If you move the slide back and lock the pin will fall out. You can take the pin out while the gun is in the
firing position.

I have found a few others on the internet that have had this very same problem. Surprisingly Beretta has never heard
of such a problem. I will call the corporate office Monday and speak to them.

I really like that gun and hopefully you can fix it and return it to me in a condition that will restore my confidence in
that gun as my CCW.

Chuck Ventimiglia

[wgoforth]

I sent it Fed EX 3 day estimated delivery is 7/13. I took the gun to Fed Ex in it's carry box. They gave me a Fed Ex box, and I put it in the Fed Ex box. They said $26!!

If I would have sent it 2 day they said it would cost 60 some odd $$

That is all I know.

Chuck

Aren't you required to ship it overnight, letting them know that it is a firearm?

[RockingRook]

I told them I was shipping a firearm. I told them I wanted to have it there by Monday. They gave me the price of $60+ dollars. The guy there suggested to me
that I send it 3 day for $26. That is all I know. I have never shipped one before and asked them and they gave me the instructions. The only requirement was for the gun
to be unloaded and no ammo in the box.

[RockingRook]

Aren't you required to ship it overnight, letting them know that it is a firearm?

The guy behind the desk did tell me that I had to package it because they could n and make sure it was not loaded. I asked if there were any other declarations he said "NO!!"

All I want to do is get that thing to Missouri. Never shipped one before and had to ask for instructions. I contacted the repair place asked them how to hip it. they told me to put it in a Fed Ex box and send it.
I checked with Fed Ex and they told me how and gave me the box etc. I filled out the address label and they filled in the rest.

If there is anything else wrong with that gun/shipment I really would rather not know. It has
been a nightmare for me the past 2 days.

[wgoforth]

Aren't you required to ship it overnight, letting them know that it is a firearm?

The guy behind the desk did tell me that I had to package it because they could n and make sure it was not loaded. I asked if there were any other declarations he said "NO!!"

All I want to do is get that thing to Missouri. Never shipped one before and had to ask for instructions. I contacted the repair place asked them how to hip it. they told me to put it in a Fed Ex box and send it.
I checked with Fed Ex and they told me how and gave me the box etc. I filled out the address label and they filled in the rest.

If there is anything else wrong with that gun/shipment I really would rather not know. It has
been a nightmare for me the past 2 days.

Lol, if they knew it and accepted it that way, you got off easy even at $26!

[adamcsills]

That never happened on my PX4 SC - I got mine in early 2010 and haven't had any issues w/ the takedown pin. I never missed the click, in fact I felt the click while slowly pulling it out. It stayed snugly in place while firing.

The thing that *did* happen to my PX4 SC was the front sight didn't fit correctly and it would drift as I was shooting. After 50 rounds, I'd be off by 7 or 8 inches at less than 10 yards. I got a better deal, I think, with my defect

[RockingRook]

After 50 rounds, I'd be off by 7 or 8 inches at less than 10 yards. I got a better deal, I think, with my defect

I really am hoping that the gun comes back fixed. I will then take it out to the range and fire a couple hundred rounds through it. If it stays together with no further issues I will then begin to
have faith again in it. I really like it, that is why I bought it. Conceals easily and has all the features that I like to have in a carry gun. Originally I was about o purchase a bunch of Winchester +P
JHP and fire it through that gun and see how that ammo functions. I was then going to take it to the local gunsmith and have Fiber optic/night sights put on it. Now I ill have to hold
off to see how it functions when I get it back.

My first thought was to sell it as soon as it comes back but after some thought I would really like to give it another chance.

Do you like yours? Do you use it for carry?

[Heartland Patriot]

I really sorry to read about all the troubles that you've had, RockingRook. You had asked about a 9mm for carry that has a manual safety and decocker. Well, I carry the Ruger SR9c. It is the compact model of the SR9, shorter barrel and shorter grip length. It holds ten rounds, but can still accept the full size (17 round) SR9 mags, just that they stick out. It has a slide-lock ambidextrous manual safety, but it does NOT have a decocker (doesn't need it). It is striker fired similar to the Glock and XD and thus has the small release mechanism built into the trigger like those other pistols. I've put a few hundred rounds through it now and it would be able to outshoot me for accuracy, if you know what I mean. And, when you take it apart, you don't have to worry about taking the pin all the way out...its supposed to be removed during takedown. I paid a bit over $400 for it and am happy with the purchase. Best of luck to you with getting your Beretta fixed.

[kal0]

Do you like yours? Do you use it for carry?

Hi RockingRook,

I actually owned three PX4's.. (full size, the compact version and the sub compact all 9mm's). I think they are excellent DA/SA guns.
I used to carry the PX4 SubCompact with no problems at all... (now I'm carrying a Kimber Ultra CDP II 45ACP single stack gun) but when I'm in the mood for double stack 9mm's I will consider picking up one of my PX4's without hesitation...

It looks that the problem (on the bad models) is specifically on the takedown pin of the sub compact... that even when it's not rotated on the 90 degree angle it will come loose or out (causing what you described). I'm showing you here a link from another forum that described the problem you saw ... and how Beretta responded to the problem/solving the issue. I have no doubt they will solve yours. Good luck, Keep us posted!

This is the link of that source:
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general- ... post195238" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The gun has returned from the repair shop.

The repair ticket states that the takedown pin was refitted. Ted attempted to remove the takedown pin without rotating it 90 degrees and it would not budge. That's a good sign. Ted removed the pin properly for inspection. The grooves are cut wider and much deeper into the pin now.

Here are pictures of the new pin and repair slip. Tomorrow we are planning to go put some rounds down range, and I'll report again after that.

[RockingRook]

I sure hope they fix it!! I sent mine to a shop in Missouri. I am keeping your link in case the shop there does not know how to fix it. I suspected it was a defective take down pin.

Anyhow, I am keeping my fingers crossed. I will call the repair shop tomorrow and get with them. Thanks!!

[cnovel]

I think you will find that when you pulled the pin out all the way,,you lost the small retaining spring on the inside that holds the takedown lever in place. I do think the spring does not hold in the groove well enough to hold it in,,but I did the same thing on my new one,,but it was on a bench and I found the spring,,and it did take me an hour or so with my magnified desk lamp,to get it back in,,the pin should never be removed,,you will see just to be more gentle and go slow when messing with the take down,,if the pin came out,the retention spring was inside,and fell out at a later time,,
I have not had any issues after that,except with my IWB ,would release the mag button,,problem solved by moving it to other side which I did myself,,also what they advertise as night sights,are junk,,also put on a set of tijicon sights and being more careful on cleaning,have not had any issues.

The spring is very small,maybe a 1/4 inch semi circle,,has to go back just right,,when you get yours back,look in there,,it could be held in better,but that was my experience,and it was my fault,I am sure you will notice it when you get it back,,
I like the capacity,affordable to practice in 9mm,just another tool,never replace the sigs ;)
Good luck

[jmoney]

Sounds like a design flaw. It's a shame as I've always thought highly of Barettas.

I'm curious why you don't carry your G27. I'm considering one for my CCW.

my thoughts exactly

[RockingRook]

I do carry the Glock 27 and have been for a couple years. I bought the Beretta because I liked it, it is concealable and has an external safety
and decocker features I feel more comfortable with.

Now that I have the Beretta I want to get it fixed and it gives me the choice for another carry gun.