Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
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Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
As many of you know, recently I received a gift of a LLAMA 9mm Parabellum from my cousin. I had never owned or shot a 1911 before. Everyone has been telling me that they are addictive and I would be buying more as soon as I shot it. Today I took it to Sportsman's Outlet in Humble and shot it. Well everyone was right. This is a nice shooting gun!
I figured out it was built in 1975 so for 35 years old it was amazingly tight. I put 200 rounds through it and only had one failure to feed on the 2nd round. The round shot up too hard and got caught in the slide vertically. This might have been because I was shooting UMAX reloads, or it might be because the magazine was slightly tight and a bit jerky. I took it apart and noticed what looked like sand in the magazine. I cleaned the spring and then oiled it up. Every round fed perfectly after that.
Let me start by saying that I am not the best shot, but I am practicing and improving. That said, I have attached 3 pictures.
The first is the gun itself.
The second picture is a 10 round grouping at 5 yards. All shots in either the bulls eye or in the 9 ring, so from 15 feet I got about a 1.5 inch grouping.
The third picture is 9 shots at 15 yards. Every shot was within the number five ring giving me a 5 inch grouping. I did have one fly away where I was anticipating the kick.
Many of you have told me this is a medium quality gun. I am impressed with the fit, finish and how tight everything still fits after 35 years. The grips are a beautiful color, and it shows very little wear and tear. It is a full size 1911 so I don't see me trying to carry it this summer. I will probably keek carrying my Glock, but I do plan on getting a Comp-Tac holster for IWB carry this winter. It will take a few more visits before I trust it as my self defense pistol.
Overall for the first range visit, I think the gun preformed very well. I am very impressed with it, and if this is a medium quality 1911 there will be another in my collection soon.
I figured out it was built in 1975 so for 35 years old it was amazingly tight. I put 200 rounds through it and only had one failure to feed on the 2nd round. The round shot up too hard and got caught in the slide vertically. This might have been because I was shooting UMAX reloads, or it might be because the magazine was slightly tight and a bit jerky. I took it apart and noticed what looked like sand in the magazine. I cleaned the spring and then oiled it up. Every round fed perfectly after that.
Let me start by saying that I am not the best shot, but I am practicing and improving. That said, I have attached 3 pictures.
The first is the gun itself.
The second picture is a 10 round grouping at 5 yards. All shots in either the bulls eye or in the 9 ring, so from 15 feet I got about a 1.5 inch grouping.
The third picture is 9 shots at 15 yards. Every shot was within the number five ring giving me a 5 inch grouping. I did have one fly away where I was anticipating the kick.
Many of you have told me this is a medium quality gun. I am impressed with the fit, finish and how tight everything still fits after 35 years. The grips are a beautiful color, and it shows very little wear and tear. It is a full size 1911 so I don't see me trying to carry it this summer. I will probably keek carrying my Glock, but I do plan on getting a Comp-Tac holster for IWB carry this winter. It will take a few more visits before I trust it as my self defense pistol.
Overall for the first range visit, I think the gun preformed very well. I am very impressed with it, and if this is a medium quality 1911 there will be another in my collection soon.
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
Get one in .45 ACP. You'll be absolutely surprised at how easy shooting that round is in that pistol.PJK wrote:I am very impressed with it, and if this is a medium quality 1911 there will be another in my collection soon.
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
Took my non shooting DIL out this weekend. She shot a 38spl 2" bbl, Tarus Millenium 9mm, XD-40 and Kimber Eclipse Pro Target II 45 ACP. When all shooting was finished she was asked by her hubby which she liked best and the answer was the 1911 Kimber( didn't tell her it was a .45 so as to not scare her). Congrats PJK and remember I told you so.The Annoyed Man wrote:Get one in .45 ACP. You'll be absolutely surprised at how easy shooting that round is in that pistol.PJK wrote:I am very impressed with it, and if this is a medium quality 1911 there will be another in my collection soon.
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
I went to buy a few magazines for this LLAMA and noticed the Kimber Pro CDP II. WOW!!!! I have to save a few pennies, but I see another 1911 in my safe soon.
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
Does anyone know where I can buy a clip for the Llama 9mm Parabellum?
Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
...I googled it and found quite a bit of info to read/look up... http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&h ... 93&bih=499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
...the on-duty "it's a magazine not a clip" police will be along shortly...but us old guys knew what you wanted!!! welcome to the forum!!!
...IF the Llama takes Colt 1911 mags, MecGar makes this one: http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/1911/MGCGOV9L" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; probably the best quality you'll find...Mecgar makes for several manufs...
...the on-duty "it's a magazine not a clip" police will be along shortly...but us old guys knew what you wanted!!! welcome to the forum!!!
...IF the Llama takes Colt 1911 mags, MecGar makes this one: http://www.mec-gar.com/Magazines/1911/MGCGOV9L" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; probably the best quality you'll find...Mecgar makes for several manufs...
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
It will take the Colt magazines, but the LLAMA release is 1/16th of an inch lower. You will need to get a Dremel tool and shave the magazine catch opening a bit. Just extend it more towards the bottom of the magazine. I did this to 3 of them and they work great!
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Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
I have carried a Kimber Pro CDP for years. Never fails to function and hits where I want it to. I doubt you could go wrong there. I have dozens of 1911's but stick with the CDP for carry.PJK wrote:I went to buy a few magazines for this LLAMA and noticed the Kimber Pro CDP II. WOW!!!! I have to save a few pennies, but I see another 1911 in my safe soon.
Re: Range Report LLAMA 9mm Parabellum
Weeeeoooo..Sir pull the mouse over and release the keyboard. I have to cite you for Semantical Misconduct. I need you to write "Its a magazine not a clip" 500 times on the board.speedsix wrote: ...the on-duty "it's a magazine not a clip" police will be along shortly...but us old guys knew what you wanted!!! welcome to the forum!!!
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