Is this safe to shoot?

[rl168]

Found a couple of these yesterday, not sure if I should use them or not.

[Teamless]

If I am looking at the photo right, looks like the bullet is pushed into the casing.
If that is what you are also seein, then no, I would not shoot it them.
toss them, and just spend the extra few $ on new rounds

[rl168]

Yes, the bullet is pushed deeper into the casing. Thanks Teamless.

[Excaliber]

They're quite likely reloads with inadequate crimp.

The projectiles worked back into the case either under recoil, or, more likely, when they failed to chamber properly when fed from the magazine and jammed the gun.

They were probably discarded for that reason.

Cartridges in that condition can cause dangerous overpressure if they are fired.

[rl168]

Actually they are federal ammo bought from Walmart. Brought 2 boxes with me, found one in each box, in the same position no less. I am going to send the pic to them and see what they said.

Then I found some in a box of freedom munitions, new ammo, not reloads as well.

[Gameover]

I found this was the case alot of the time I bought federal from walmart. I started seeing it about a year and a half ago before then then never had problem.

[CC Italian]

I have seen this many times. I have a box of 10mm umc remington that has 4 like that. Seated to deep. Always check your ammo. I know it can be a pain if you buy bulk like I do but if it is seated to far you can get really high pressures.

[Excaliber]

Actually they are federal ammo bought from Walmart. Brought 2 boxes with me, found one in each box, in the same position no less. I am going to send the pic to them and see what they said.

Then I found some in a box of freedom munitions, new ammo, not reloads as well.

Not good.

Time to switch brands.

I have avoided WWB ammo since dangerous quality issues started showing up a while back.

[barstoolguru]

That is bullet setback and when that happens, the bullet gets higher pressures and that can lead to KB's (kabooms). At .40 cents a pc I would throw them away or as some say switch brands. My experience tells me that is rough handling by others before you got it or while you have it. Some say not enough crimp but if you crimp too much the bullet will not sit in the chamber correctly and can cause a KB also

[StewNTexas]

The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

[gigag04]

Contact mfgr. Demand replacement.

[Excaliber]

The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

[barstoolguru]

The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

considering most quality control in done by machine when mass producing ammo you would think they get rejected but if the box is dropped or the case of ammo is manhandled it is very reasonable assumption. Strait walled ammo like 45’s can’t handle a heavy crimp so bullet setback in more common than other rounds

[Excaliber]

[="StewNTexas"]The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

considering most quality control in done by machine when mass producing ammo you would think they get rejected but if the box is dropped or the case of ammo is manhandled it is very reasonable assumption. Strait walled ammo like 45’s can’t handle a heavy crimp so bullet setback in more common than other rounds[/quote]

Point of curiosity:

If quality control is good and all crimps are uniform, why would only one or two projectiles in a dropped box get set back when all were subjected to the same forces?

[barstoolguru]

[="StewNTexas"]The rough handling of products through the Wal-Mart distribution centers is the reason I will buy NO crackers or cookies from them. I have had as many as half broken in the box/package.

It takes some real hard handling to reset a bullet deeper, but I guess it could happen.

If only one or two rounds per box were affected, it's most likely quality control at the manufacturing end, not rough handling in the supply chain.

considering most quality control in done by machine when mass producing ammo you would think they get rejected but if the box is dropped or the case of ammo is manhandled it is very reasonable assumption. Strait walled ammo like 45’s can’t handle a heavy crimp so bullet setback in more common than other rounds

Point of curiosity:

If quality control is good and all crimps are uniform, why would only one or two projectiles in a dropped box get set back when all were subjected to the same forces?[/quote]

what he said was

Found a couple of these yesterday, not sure if I should use them or not.

now to me "A couple of these" sounds more like a few then two but I could be wrong. so for argument sake let’s say two. Now if someone dropped a hard round object on a box it won't rupture the box but it would still damage the product inside and that just might be the case here. 40 years of truck driving has shown me that things can get damaged without a telltale sign. I delivered a fridge one time and when I opened the box the side of the fridge was damaged, someone had backed a forklift into it and the box just flexed out never showing any damage