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Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:01 am
by 1s1k52
Any thoughts on this brand? They have quite a few models for between 1k-1500k that were very similar. They are having a sale about 45 minutes away from me. That’s averaging 200.00 or more off depending the model
Trying to include delivery up to my second story in that price.
That being said is that usually an issue keeping 800-900lbs not including guns and ammo up stairs?
Any help is appreciated
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:13 am
by 03Lightningrocks
That is a pretty heavy load considering the small foot print it is concentrated on. I would make sure of the construction of the building frame before doing it. I know there are stronger and weaker areas of the framing across the floor of a second story area. Maybe a corner along the wall would be areas most able to take the load?
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:25 am
by PBratton
Would suggest placing it on something that can help spread the load a bit.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:34 am
by The Marshal
I have had the Winchester 24 Gun Safe that I got from Costco 8 years ago.
Works great, no problems whatsoever.
The safe has actual live bolts, which the other brands (less expensive) did not
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:50 pm
by 1s1k52
What would I keep it on exactly? Maybe the second floor isn’t a good idea my entire downstairs will not be an option except the garage.
It would be all the way against an outside wall if it went upstairs
Thanks “The Marshall” for the information
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:33 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
It might be fine if placed where it is reinforced well. I went down stairs with mine due to my concern over this but my safe was around 1200 pounds and likely has another 400 pounds in it. Maybe check with the builder or have your blue prints looked at to be sure of the location.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:06 am
by 1s1k52
03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:33 pm
It might be fine if placed where it is reinforced well. I went down stairs with mine due to my concern over this but my safe was around 1200 pounds and likely has another 400 pounds in it. Maybe check with the builder or have your blue prints looked at to be sure of the location.
Pre-owned home so may not have all that.
First time home buyer so still figureing things out.
The only options downstairs are “common” areas, closets, and a garage.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:38 am
by 03Lightningrocks
I was fortunate and have a area in my laundry room that was designed for an upright deep freezer or an extra refrigerator. My safe fit the spot perfectly.
Maybe hire a structural engineer to check it for you. It may be fine in the right spot. Being in the HVAC business for 35 years I have done many new systems in this area and the building quality I have seen in most homes was less than impressive. It always seemed to me homes around here are built more for appearance on the surface than stability of framing. Just to clarify. I am not a structural engineer. It might be just fine. My worry of it had to do with my experience of seeing homes in our area in construction phases.
I bet you could get a structural engineer to check it for you for less than a couple hundred dollars.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:58 pm
by 1s1k52
03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:38 am
I was fortunate and have a area in my laundry room that was designed for an upright deep freezer or an extra refrigerator. My safe fit the spot perfectly.
Maybe hire a structural engineer to check it for you. It may be fine in the right spot. Being in the HVAC business for 35 years I have done many new systems in this area and the building quality I have seen in most homes was less than impressive. It always seemed to me homes around here are built more for appearance on the surface than stability of framing. Just to clarify. I am not a structural engineer. It might be just fine. My worry of it had to do with my experience of seeing homes in our area in construction phases.
I bet you could get a structural engineer to check it for you for less than a couple hundred dollars.
Not sure if the juice is worth the squeeze on this one. May have to just put it in the garage or buy two smaller ones. One up one down. Bolting to the floor won’t be an option anywhere but the garage either. I am reading mixed reviews on having one in the garage in Texas.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:07 pm
by The Marshal
1s1k52 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:58 pm
Not sure if the juice is worth the squeeze on this one. May have to just put it in the garage or buy two smaller ones. One up one down. Bolting to the floor won’t be an option anywhere but the garage either. I am reading mixed reviews on having one in the garage in Texas.
Go for it!
My Winchester safe has been in the garage for the last 8 years. No Issues!
I keep a lot of the desiccant scattered around. No problem with any moisture. And it is a normal garage.
I have been well pleased with the safe.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:09 pm
by Oldgringo
I have a 500 pound 24 gun model Winchester safe that came from Tractor Supply some 5-6 years ago and nobody has stole it yet. I question something that heavy on the second floor of a wood framed structure.
I also would like to watch it being carried up the stairs.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:25 pm
by 1s1k52
Well. Good news. We bought a house with the MB on the first floor so dodged that bullet thankfully.
My man closet is HUGE. I’m shopping for safes now. Financially it should realistically be on the bottom of “our” list with all the things we want or need to do to the house. IE gutters etc.
However, on the top of MY list hahaha. We rented a home for years, longer than anticipated, and therefor I held off
I will have some time to do some research since our savings was depleted with the house plus unforeseen repairs already. I am not sure what brand I will end up with at this point. I have a pretty detailed vision of what I want. The dimensions will be roughly 60x40x25 with a power outlet for a dehumidifier, interior lighting, network HD, etc. I want at least two rows for long guns divided by shelves in the middle for ammo or whatever. A shelf on top for documents/valuables and a door organizer. I would prefer an electronic lock, but all the horror stories I have read I think an old school wheel combo would be best
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:29 am
by DocV
Congratulations on the new place!
You will be surprised what will end up in your safe. I discovered a bunch of paperwork takine up most of the room in my smallest safe. My guess that is Mrs DocV's way of encouraging me to buy another large safe. If I do buy another, I will go with the mechanical lock , although I suspect there are ways those wheel locks can go bad too.
Be careful if you decide to bolt the safe to the floor. Drilling through a water pipe would be rather disappointing.
Re: Winchester gun safes
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:10 am
by TxRVer
I bought a Kodiak safe in similar dimensions to what you're looking for and I love it. Especially the swing out rack. It also has the internal power strip you're looking for. Since you're in north Texas you might be able to find one at a Gebo's farm store like I did. I bought mine on sale, but even their regular price was good.
https://rhinosafe.com/kodiak-ksb5940ex- ... un-60-min/