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I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:55 pm
by NavAir
... where this info is supposed to be kept confidential.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41694733" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:06 pm
by chasfm11
Nothing dealing with NY and guns surprises me. It is clear that have a carry license in NY is a elitist thing and I'm not surprised about that either. Mayor Bloomberg may be anti-gun but I suspect that 2,000 or so of his closest friends have licenses. I'm sure that it is the same at the State level. So it is OK for dignitaries to protect themselves but the rest of us just need to make ourselves available to the criminals while we visit the Rotten Apple.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:06 pm
by Keith B
NavAir wrote:... where this info is supposed to be kept confidential.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41694733" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Steve
And that is why the statute was passed to prohibit this type of thing from happening.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:30 pm
by WildBill
I don't think this information is about concealed carry. It sounds like only a permit to have the gun.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:19 am
by NavAir
WildBill wrote:I don't think this information is about concealed carry. It sounds like only a permit to have the gun.
Yes, but that necessarily includes the subset (a small one in NY) who are allowed to carry concealed...

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:03 am
by Keith B
In the article, Martha Stewart's daughter says:
“I don’t believe people should be allowed to have guns in America,” Ms. Stewart told the paper, explaining that she bought a .357 Magnum after 9/11 — but would be happy to give it up if handguns were banned. “Having a swimming pool is way more dangerous than having a gun,” she added.
Then tell Bloom'ie to fill his in and go after all his rich buddies with swimming pools.

And, of those 37,000 pistol permits in NYC, I will bet the percentage may be very low on how many are actually personal protection licenses. Additionally, I believe you must get a permit each time you purchase a new gun, so wonder it they just looked at the total number that have been issued? If so, this could be less actual owners if they have multiple guns. Also, I wonder if the permit gets canceled if the person moves out of state or sells the gun legally?

Maybe Excalibur can give us some insight on this process. :thumbs2:

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:10 am
by WildBill
Keith B wrote:And, of those 37,000 pistol permits in NYC, I will bet the percentage may be very low on how many are actually personal protection licenses. Additionally, I believe you must get a permit each time you purchase a new gun, so wonder it they just looked at the total number that have been issued? If so, this could be less actual owners if they have multiple guns. Also, I wonder if the permit gets canceled if the person moves out of state or sells the gun legally?
The NYPD website states that you can have 25 guns per permit. This permit is to own the gun. There are other "add-ons" that are available to have it at home, business, guard, concealed carry, etc. There are provisions for permit holders who move or live out of state. I am sure that a "non-restricted carry" CHL type carry is extremely rare.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/permi ... _faq.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:58 pm
by Bullwhip
WildBill wrote:I don't think this information is about concealed carry. It sounds like only a permit to have the gun.
Same thing in NY.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:04 pm
by The Annoyed Man
“I don’t believe people should be allowed to have guns in America,” Ms. Stewart told the paper, expaining that she bought a .357 Magnum after 9/11 — but would be happy to give it up if handguns were banned. “Having a swimming pool is way more dangerous than having a gun,” she added.
Jesus wept. The massive hypocrisy.... If she doesn't believe people should be allowed to have guns in America, then why on earth did she buy one? What a feckless idiot!

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:29 pm
by sjfcontrol
They listed Sean Hannity... :patriot:

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:08 pm
by Keith B
Bullwhip wrote:
WildBill wrote:I don't think this information is about concealed carry. It sounds like only a permit to have the gun.
Same thing in NY.
No it isn't. A concealed carry permit is a proper cause license, and is different from a home, business, corrections officer, justice, etc. license.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:18 am
by firefighter3217
Anybody else catch this?

I don’t believe people should be allowed to have guns in America,” Ms. Stewart told the paper, expaining that she bought a .357 Magnum after 9/11 — but would be happy to give it up if handguns were banned. “Having a swimming pool is way more dangerous than having a gun,” she added.


Doesn't sound too thought out to me... "nobody should have one, but I do. I'd give it up if they were banned. And oh by the way, it's less dangerous than a pool, which requires no background check..."

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:52 am
by Keith B
firefighter3217 wrote:Anybody else catch this?

I don’t believe people should be allowed to have guns in America,” Ms. Stewart told the paper, expaining that she bought a .357 Magnum after 9/11 — but would be happy to give it up if handguns were banned. “Having a swimming pool is way more dangerous than having a gun,” she added.


Doesn't sound too thought out to me... "nobody should have one, but I do. I'd give it up if they were banned. And oh by the way, it's less dangerous than a pool, which requires no background check..."
Yeah, I quoted it above.

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:58 pm
by e-bil
Not to mention she is a convicted felon...

Re: I hope this doesn't happen in TX...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:28 am
by sjfcontrol
e-bil wrote:Not to mention she is a convicted felon...
Actually, her mother is a felon. The quote was by Martha's daughter.