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TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:51 pm
by philip964
https://www.click2houston.com/news/dps- ... ounty-home

We can all be thankful the child is alive. We hope and pray for a full recovery.

Got to be locked up. Keys kept always on your person.

Kids are curious and smart as the dickens.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:56 am
by dlh
Wonder if there will be charges under the access statute?

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:23 am
by The Annoyed Man
Some of the commenters on that page are idiots.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:02 am
by oljames3
The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:23 am Some of the commenters on that page are idiots.
Some? TAM, you are being too kind.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:44 pm
by The Annoyed Man
oljames3 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:02 am
The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:23 am Some of the commenters on that page are idiots.
Some? TAM, you are being too kind.
I tried to err on the side of mercy. :mrgreen:

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm
by baseballguy2001
There will be no charges, no disciplinary action, nothing. Some LEO's are just as negligent when it comes to firearm safety as anyone else.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:56 pm
by srothstein
baseballguy2001 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm There will be no charges, no disciplinary action, nothing. Some LEO's are just as negligent when it comes to firearm safety as anyone else.
I doubt that nothing will happen. While he is eligible for criminal charges (and should be charged if the DA has ever accepted charges against a non-LEO citizen in the same circumstances) I doubt that will happen. I do disagree with this law for citizens also though.

But DPS is notoriously political. Their officers get disciplined, including fired, for anything that makes DPS look bad. I think there will be discipline against the trooper for this reason.

But I also want to point out that one of the reasons I disagree with the law on access is that there is nothing anyone can do to a good parent more than the guilt he will do to himself for the incident. I have no reason to believe that the trooper is not a good and caring parent in this case. Having an injured child caused by his negligence will bother him, just as it would bother most parents.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:09 am
by WildBill
srothstein wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:56 pm
baseballguy2001 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm There will be no charges, no disciplinary action, nothing. Some LEO's are just as negligent when it comes to firearm safety as anyone else.
I doubt that nothing will happen. While he is eligible for criminal charges (and should be charged if the DA has ever accepted charges against a non-LEO citizen in the same circumstances) I doubt that will happen. I do disagree with this law for citizens also though.

But DPS is notoriously political. Their officers get disciplined, including fired, for anything that makes DPS look bad. I think there will be discipline against the trooper for this reason.

But I also want to point out that one of the reasons I disagree with the law on access is that there is nothing anyone can do to a good parent more than the guilt he will do to himself for the incident. I have no reason to believe that the trooper is not a good and caring parent in this case. Having an injured child caused by his negligence will bother him, just as it would bother most parents.
:iagree: :tiphat:

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:18 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
srothstein wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:56 pm
baseballguy2001 wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:46 pm There will be no charges, no disciplinary action, nothing. Some LEO's are just as negligent when it comes to firearm safety as anyone else.
But I also want to point out that one of the reasons I disagree with the law on access is that there is nothing anyone can do to a good parent more than the guilt he will do to himself for the incident. I have no reason to believe that the trooper is not a good and caring parent in this case. Having an injured child caused by his negligence will bother him, just as it would bother most parents.
I agree and this is why charges are almost never filed (TPC §46.13).

Chas.

Re: TX: DPS trooper’s 3 yo injured by gun.

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:22 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
The article gives no details whatsoever. It doesn't say who owned the gun or who failed to secure the gun. It doesn't even say the gun was not secured. It probably wasn't but how it was accessed was not addressed in the article.

I do hope some folks are some day held to the standard they set for others.
Chas.