Then I guess you won't mind that if a Dem gets into office, you won't have any gun rights to exercise.atxgun wrote:Well I think if any of the GOP candidates are elected other than ron paul the world will deteriorate to a point to where you need to exercise your gun rights on a daily basis for survival much more so than if a dem get's in office.
Ron Paul Fundraising pulls in over 2.6 M today alone
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From my cold dead handsfrankie_the_yankee wrote:Then I guess you won't mind that if a Dem gets into office, you won't have any gun rights to exercise.atxgun wrote:Well I think if any of the GOP candidates are elected other than ron paul the world will deteriorate to a point to where you need to exercise your gun rights on a daily basis for survival much more so than if a dem get's in office.
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Ron Paul's views on the war in Iraq, as well as gun rights are very appealing.
His other views, however, scare the tar out of me.
I think hes somewhat of a nut.
I will say this, though. He's a very principled nut. That alone makes him a more attractive and better qualified candidate than ANYONE running on either side of the aisle.
I sent him $100 a few months ago. I'd rather have a principled nut in the whitehouse than anything else I have to choose from.
His other views, however, scare the tar out of me.
I think hes somewhat of a nut.
I will say this, though. He's a very principled nut. That alone makes him a more attractive and better qualified candidate than ANYONE running on either side of the aisle.
I sent him $100 a few months ago. I'd rather have a principled nut in the whitehouse than anything else I have to choose from.
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I agree with nitrogen, although I don't think he is a nut.nitrogen wrote:Ron Paul's views on the war in Iraq, as well as gun rights are very appealing.
His other views, however, scare the tar out of me.
I think hes somewhat of a nut.
I will say this, though. He's a very principled nut. That alone makes him a more attractive and better qualified candidate than ANYONE running on either side of the aisle.
I sent him $100 a few months ago. I'd rather have a principled nut in the whitehouse than anything else I have to choose from.
Ron Paul's principles and ideas are certainly not new. He is as close to a constitutionalist as we are going to have running for office.
He scares the willies out of people and maybe that is what we need.
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"The Smallest Minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." – Ayn Rand
Back to the original subject, the final 24 hour total wasn't $2.5 million, wasn't $3 million, but was just barely under $4 million!
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The current mainstream accepted form of American foreign policy hasn't been a disaster? This invasive policy we set might of saved us during the cold war but it also helped to cause the hatred that was responsible for 9/11. Jumping into countries like Iraq haven't done us any good. Jumping into Iran would be a disaster too. We need to step back, defend our friggan borders (something we really hate to do with mainstream neoconservative policy) use some of the nearly trillion dollars we spend on foreign policy each year to help fund customs/border patrol and maybe challenge the problems we're really scared of. This doesn't mean we're isolationist, doesn't mean we disband the military, doesn't mean that we won't protect our interests. It means that we don't provoke people and wait until we have a good reason to go to war.frankie_the_yankee wrote:I didn't because I don't. I think his foreign policy would be a disaster.boomerang wrote: I donated to Dr. Paul's campaign because I believe he's the best candidate for President. How about you?
People keep telling me that we won't be ready when the next war is at our feet. Why not? We have the power and funds. We have the power projection from carrier groups to decimate most anyone. If an ally is in trouble we'll be able to use their land.
Is it that we're letting the enemy get stronger while we sit back? What enemy is gonna hurt us? And it comes back full circle to the original question; if we're so afraid of individuals that come to harm us why aren't we doing more about the borders and customs? That's where the battle is at, if they can't get in they can't harm us. You can't kill them all.
Ron Paul is by far the most misunderstood politician in this race.
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There was a report on one of the local stations that someone is using Paul's fundraising to rip off credit cards. I didn't get the whole jist of it and Paul's campaign doesn't appear to be involved in any way but somehow someone is funnelling charges from stolen credit cards through his campaign fund.
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OK. We caused the hate. 9/11 was our fault. Fighting back will only cause more hate.Will938 wrote: This invasive policy we set might of saved us during the cold war but it also helped to cause the hatred that was responsible for 9/11.
That's my problem with Paul. He and bin Ladan seem to be on the same page.
Anyway, I'm done with this line of discussion.
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The donation meter is currently above $7.7 million for the quarter. Looks like we'll easily be above $8 million before mid-week. In other words, two-thirds of the way to the $12 million quarterly goal, halfway through the quarter.
Good editorial from a major California news source, the very Republican Orange County Register:
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/paul- ... raised-ron
Thursday, November 8, 2007
Editorial: $4.3 million reasons to believe in Ron Paul
The libertarian sets a one-day fundraising record for GOP presidential candidates
An Orange County Register editorial
If this doesn't get the attention of the mainstream media and the Republican establishment, it's difficult to figure out just what would – but it's likely that even more dramatic developments in Dr. Ron Paul's run for the presidency are yet to come.
The big news is that Ron Paul, the 10-term Republican congressman from Texas and longtime standard-bearer for libertarian and constitutionalist ideas, raised more money – by a considerable amount – in a 24-hour period than any other Republican candidate. Some 37,000 people, 21,000 of them new donors, contributed $4.3 million to Ron Paul's campaign Monday, Guy Fawkes Day.
Guy Fawkes Day? Go rent the DVD of "V for Vendetta" to gain an insight into the spirit that moves the Ron Paul revolution.
The previous single-day fundraising record for Republicans was held by Mitt Romney, who raised $3.14 million last January, when he held a "national call day." Barack Obama on the Democratic side has raised more money in a single day, and Hillary Clinton raised $6.2 million on June 30. But Paul is the single-day champion among Republicans.
Dr. Paul surprised the political world by raising more than $5 million in the third quarter, and his campaign set a goal of raising $12 million by the end of the year. As of Tuesday afternoon it had raised $7.396 million, so that goal, which seemed utopian a month ago, looks as if it will be surpassed easily.
"What was striking to me," Lew Rockwell of the Mises Institute in Auburn, Ala., who's a longtime friend and associate of Dr. Paul, told us, "is that this was entirely a volunteer event. It was conceived, designed and run entirely by volunteers. A normal campaign that tried a one-day fundraising event would have had weeks of top-down coordination and a huge staff manning the phones. This was an example of bottom-up spontaneous order."
So what does it mean? We believe it shows a considerable constituency not just for ending the war in Iraq, which Dr. Paul opposed from the beginning, but for an honest candidate who says what he thinks rather than what has been poll-tested, and for the kind of constitutionalist, limited-government philosophy that many Republicans and conservatives (as well as libertarians) used to think they supported.
In short, there's a hunger for liberty among young and old of all races and backgrounds, and many are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Ron Paul has been the catalyst, but he has awakened a growing group of Americans whom standard-issue politicians will no longer be able to ignore.
Good editorial from a major California news source, the very Republican Orange County Register:
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/paul- ... raised-ron
Thursday, November 8, 2007
Editorial: $4.3 million reasons to believe in Ron Paul
The libertarian sets a one-day fundraising record for GOP presidential candidates
An Orange County Register editorial
If this doesn't get the attention of the mainstream media and the Republican establishment, it's difficult to figure out just what would – but it's likely that even more dramatic developments in Dr. Ron Paul's run for the presidency are yet to come.
The big news is that Ron Paul, the 10-term Republican congressman from Texas and longtime standard-bearer for libertarian and constitutionalist ideas, raised more money – by a considerable amount – in a 24-hour period than any other Republican candidate. Some 37,000 people, 21,000 of them new donors, contributed $4.3 million to Ron Paul's campaign Monday, Guy Fawkes Day.
Guy Fawkes Day? Go rent the DVD of "V for Vendetta" to gain an insight into the spirit that moves the Ron Paul revolution.
The previous single-day fundraising record for Republicans was held by Mitt Romney, who raised $3.14 million last January, when he held a "national call day." Barack Obama on the Democratic side has raised more money in a single day, and Hillary Clinton raised $6.2 million on June 30. But Paul is the single-day champion among Republicans.
Dr. Paul surprised the political world by raising more than $5 million in the third quarter, and his campaign set a goal of raising $12 million by the end of the year. As of Tuesday afternoon it had raised $7.396 million, so that goal, which seemed utopian a month ago, looks as if it will be surpassed easily.
"What was striking to me," Lew Rockwell of the Mises Institute in Auburn, Ala., who's a longtime friend and associate of Dr. Paul, told us, "is that this was entirely a volunteer event. It was conceived, designed and run entirely by volunteers. A normal campaign that tried a one-day fundraising event would have had weeks of top-down coordination and a huge staff manning the phones. This was an example of bottom-up spontaneous order."
So what does it mean? We believe it shows a considerable constituency not just for ending the war in Iraq, which Dr. Paul opposed from the beginning, but for an honest candidate who says what he thinks rather than what has been poll-tested, and for the kind of constitutionalist, limited-government philosophy that many Republicans and conservatives (as well as libertarians) used to think they supported.
In short, there's a hunger for liberty among young and old of all races and backgrounds, and many are willing to put their money where their mouth is. Ron Paul has been the catalyst, but he has awakened a growing group of Americans whom standard-issue politicians will no longer be able to ignore.
Other upcoming "donation days": Sunday, 11/11, all veterans are urged to donate. The goal is another million, 10,000 veterans at $100 apiece. (I can't go another hundred so soon after 11/5, but I'll kick in $17.76.)
Friday, 11/23, "Buy nothing day". Instead of fighting the crowds on Black Friday, stay home and donate the money you save.
Sunday, 12/16, Boston Tea Party day. 'Nuff said.
Ron Paul Christmas: Donate $25 every Monday until Christmas.
There are others out there. Pick one, and donate.
Friday, 11/23, "Buy nothing day". Instead of fighting the crowds on Black Friday, stay home and donate the money you save.
Sunday, 12/16, Boston Tea Party day. 'Nuff said.
Ron Paul Christmas: Donate $25 every Monday until Christmas.
There are others out there. Pick one, and donate.
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If he does, he will get hillary elected just like Perot did.atxgun wrote:He had said in the past he wouldn't run independently if he didn't get the nomination. But who knows if he gets his 12 M goal maybe he'll reconsider running outside of the GOP. If nothing else I hope this will get the mainstream media to give up their case that Paul really has no supporters and the online "illusion" is just pushed by a very small number of people.
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lawrnk wrote:If he does, he will get hillary elected just like Perot did.atxgun wrote:He had said in the past he wouldn't run independently if he didn't get the nomination. But who knows if he gets his 12 M goal maybe he'll reconsider running outside of the GOP. If nothing else I hope this will get the mainstream media to give up their case that Paul really has no supporters and the online "illusion" is just pushed by a very small number of people.