President of the NRA on Hillary and Soros...Scary

[frankie_the_yankee]

I am going to assume that you are talking about voting for Ron Paul for the Republican nomination. If he was a throw away vote, he would not have the most military donations, or the most meet-up groups, or have gone from being basically a no-name to pretty much being considered a mainstream candidate now.

I am not saying that voting for Paul in the primaries is a throwaway vote. If Ron Paul is your favorite Republican candidate, by all means support him in the primaries.

What I am saying is that if someone like Giuliani or Romney is nominated, people who then vote for a minor party candidate or stay home are throwing their votes away in return for some short-term feel-good nonsense that we normally chastise anti-gunners for engaging in.

But even at that, a vote is never a throw-away vote, no matter how obscure the candidate is. Just because the candidate a person decides to vote for isn't a bought-and-paid-for candidate by big oil/pharm/military contractors doesn't make him a wasted vote. It makes him a dream, and a good dream at that. I, for one, want a candidate that is real, that speaks the truth, and isn't swayed by bags of money with big strings leading back to a corporation showing up at his door step.

That's not a wasted vote in my opinion. That's the President we need.

There's nothing wrong with that in the abstract.

But unfortunately, the abstract doesn't fully describe the real world. And in the real world, unless you can convince 60+ million other people to share your "dream", it will remain a dream.

Until it is interrupted by a nightmare that is. That will be when Hillary/Obama is sworn in and starts packing the federal judiciary with Breyers.

And when she/he reverses our current stance and signs on to the proposed UN treaty that will lead to a ban on small arms (i.e. "guns"). Watch Breyer write the majority opinion stating that the UN Treaty overrides the Second Amendment.

Then wait until Hillary/Obama's new FCC commissioners re-institute the "Fairness Doctrine" to knock political dissent off the airwaves.

All of this will happen because a couple of million gun owners decided to "make a statement", instead of casting a strategic vote for what may be a flawed candidate, to avoid electing a truly horrific one.

And I cannot understand how anyone can listen to Hillary, Obama, Romney, or Giuliani, or look at their records, and then say with a straight face that either Romney or Giuliani would be WORSE than Hillary/Obama.

Whatever Romney or Giuliani have said or done that gun owners and freedom lovers might not like, Hillary/Obama has said or done the same thing 10X over.

[pistolchamp]

It is important to remember that we are each one real vote. But, only one... in a field of millions. Not that I am saying our vote is of little importance, it is of GREAT importance... we MUST use our heads as this is truly a pivotal election that will form our way of life forever!!!

I will personnally vote in the Damocrap primary here in Texas... probably for Obambam as he should be the easiest Damocrap to beat... and that's my visionary, hippy, politically incorrect, rebellian vote in this election. Then I will support with all my heart whichever Republican candidate is chosen for the general election.

That is the ONLY way I can make a difference in this election. Defeat the liberals at their own game by helping nominate their biggest idiot and the easiest candidate for democracy to crush and then support the only candidate that will help save us.

Given a choice of Republican candidates today, I would stick with Mike Huckabee... hickabee if you so choose, he is real and will keep the UN out of our business and he will get the chance to nominate a SCOTUS justice or maybe two... Thank you Lord. I live just a few minutes from Hope, Arkansas and have heard from many of my arky friends who would never vote for the Hildebeast... they remember hubby and hated him... remember he never even came close to carrying his home state, either time and the Hildebeast won't either... a strong message if there ever was one... but, then neither Gore nor Kerry carried their home states... are the Damocraps listening????

Huck is my choice, but, possibly not the candidate that will win the nomination. Whoever that is I will support as even Rudy or Mitt will be a lot better than the Hildebeast or Obambam. Please remember that the worst the Republicans can come up with is better than the best the damocraps will choose.

I will NOT waste my vote on Ron Paul as he is not a viable candidate. He is raising money, good; he is hurting Damocraps, good; he really wants to help, good; but, he can't win... way too far out of synch and he has not foreign policy experience and we must have that.

Remember what Ross Perot did to us, he split the vote and we got Hill and Billy, God forgive us and lead us not to repeat our mistake.

It would be nice if the Bloomingidiot from NYC were to run as an independent as he would split off a piece of the damocrap vote and help us a lot... but, is he as stupid as Perot? Will he blow one hundred million bucks to get not a single electoral college vote? Probably not, but, we can dream. Perot's childhood home is literally right out my back door, that's as close as I want to get to him, ever!!! It is totally his fault that we had to put up with 8 years of Hill and Billy... never again.

[boomerang]

OK. I give. What is "slow wheat"?

"slow wheat" = "pro gun"

[Mike1951]

Actually, since a member created the term, here is his definition.

"Slow Wheat" is a generic term I made up to refer to minor party candidates who have no chance of winning elective office.

[boomerang]

I didn't realize the GOP is a minor party but anyway it's funny how "slow wheat" is only used when talking about pro gun candidates and never candidates like Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney.

[frankie_the_yankee]

I didn't realize the GOP is a minor party but anyway it's funny how "slow wheat" is only used when talking about pro gun candidates and never candidates like Dennis Kucinich or Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinney.

Kucinich ran as a Democrat.

Neither McKinney nor Nader was running for anything when these conversations were going on.

Not to mention that the idea that anyone who was looking for a candidate to vote for who was more conservative than McCain or Guiliani (Yes, even Guiliani) or Romney would consider voting for someone like McKinney or Nader is simply ludicrous.

Context is everyone's best friend.

So if someone doesn't like McCain, feel free to find some super-duper mucho macho "real" conservative / libertarian candidate to vote for who makes you feel so good when you color in the circle next to his name that you leave the polls grinning from ear to ear. Even if it is someone who's own mother hasn't heard of, and who has less of a chance of being elected president than Kinky Friedman.

Texas is going to go Republican anyway, so no harm will be done.

Just pray that enough people in contested states don't take such an ill-advised course of action to the point where Obama gets to appoint a few hundred "living document" judges to the federal bench. And hope that Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Kennedy, and Alito continue to enjoy good health and vigor throughout President Obama's term.

Because if they (the people in contested states) do make ill-advised feel-good votes, and if any of "the big five" leave The Court during Obama's term, our 2A rights will end up on history's ash heap for the next 100 years or so.

And don't be blaming me if that happens.