IDPA Rules Addendum Issued July 6, 2010

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IDPA Rules Addendum Issued July 6, 2010

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It's been quite some time since the IDPA issued any formal changes to the rules, but they just did so a few days ago. There's nothing earth-shaking in the changes, so don't worry to much about them before your next match if you're a recreational shooter.

At the same time, the IDPA also issued their long-awaited (yet still provisional) Defensive Multi-Gun Rules for three-gun matches.

You can find links to PDF files of both these at http://www.idpa.com/rules_updates.asp.

The changes in the Rule Addendum are minimal for most shooters. Match Directors, SOs, and serious competitors will obviously need to familiarize themselves, though. Most of the changes are really clarifications of the existing rules and codify things most competitors were doing anyway. A few examples of the changes:
  • On page 10 of the current rules, C15 previously talked about how pistols must be loaded to division capacity. The addendum goes on to add: "A. Pistols may only be loaded to below division capacity if stipulated by the written stage description. B. Pistols that as manufactured cannot be loaded to the division capacity may still be used so long as they are loaded to their maximum capacity and meet all other criteria for that division."
  • On page 12 CoF 4 said, "Only one (1) non-threat target may be used per every three (3) threat targets in any string of fire." I assume because some course designers were introducing a second non-threat too soon, the addendum clarifies the rule by adding: "Stage designers may use one non-threat for 1 to 5 threats, 2 non-threats for 6 to 8 threats and 3 non-threats for 9 threats or more."
  • Also on page 12, CoF 9 used to be little confusing because it read, "When cover is available, it MUST be used both when shooting and reloading." Of course, everybody has shot CoFs where you draw and fire while moving to cover. So the revised rule now reads: "When cover is available, it MUST be used when shooting unless the competitor starts in the open and must engage targets while on the way to cover. If cover is available anywhere in the COF it must be used for reloading. Competitors may NOT cross any opening (doorways, windows, open spaces, etc) without engaging targets." Makes more sense that way.
  • Probably due to the increasing popularity of small carry guns since the current (April 2005) rules were written, this has been added to the section "A. Firearms" that begins on page 17: "The use of magazines that extend past flush with the base of the grip are allowed as long as the gun still fits the box with the magazine inserted. The rules for division capacity would still be in effect."
  • For ESP and CDP pistols, the following have been added to PERMITTED modifications: "15. Extended slide release. 16. Customization of the slide by adding front cocking serrations, engraving, tri-top, carry melts and high power cuts. 17. Ambidextrous or right side magazine releases." Also, the CDP permissible weight has increased one ounce from 41 ounces to 42 ounces.
  • All of the language of the Official Chronograph Procedure appearing on page 28 of the rules has been rewritten and expanded.
  • The somewhat quirky holster rule I. on page 33 has been clarified. Previously it read, "Must hold the firearm positioned on the body so an object of 3/4" width cannot pass between the shooter's body and the inside of the firearm when the shooter is standing straight and upright." Naturally, if an SO was determined enough, he could shove a 3/4" wood block through a space that was really only 1/2". So the addendum adds clarification: "If the 3/4-inch object touches both the body and the firearm as it is passed through, the holster is legal."
  • There are a number of other changes, but the last one that I think is particularly noteworthy is a change and clarification to the definition of Tactical Sequence on page 82. The existing definition reads, "Tactical Sequence: A method of target engagement. For Tactical Sequence, all targets are engaged with one round each before being engaged again. In the case of three (3) targets requiring two (2) rounds each, all targets would be engaged with one round to each target BEFORE reengaging the targets with another round in any order (1-1-2-1-1). The new addendum goes on to add: "Tactical Sequence may not be used for targets farther than 10 yards. Tactical Sequence may not be combined with Tactical Priority (near to far or from cover) on the same targets. As stated on page 12, tactical sequence is only required when it is specified in the course of fire description."
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Re: IDPA Rules Addendum Issued July 6, 2010

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I'm new to IDPA so correct me if I'm wrong, but are the rule books saying that I must use 10 round magazines in my Glock 19? As I read it, I think it says that I couldn't use a 15-round magazine and load it to 10 rounds.
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You can use your full capacity magazines for IDPA. You can load 10 in the magazine and one in the chamber unless the course of fire tells you different. Only reason to use the 10 round mags is if you purchase them for a reduced price.

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jbirds1210 wrote:You can use your full capacity magazines for IDPA. You can load 10 in the magazine and one in the chamber unless the course of fire tells you different. Only reason to use the 10 round mags is if you purchase them for a reduced price.

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Thanks Jason. I get it now. I just picked up 3 extra 15-round mags (5 total) for use in USPSA and I wanted to make sure I could use them for IDPA. I still haven't figured out which one to choose (or just do both of them). I witnessed my first USPSA match today and it looked like a lot of fun. On the other hand, I think IDPA may be a more practical practice mechanism for concealed carry.
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Re: IDPA Rules Addendum Issued July 6, 2010

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I would really like to see IDPA abandon the 1 non-threat per 3 threat targets. Target identification and engaging with "friendlies" present is something everyone should practice. I think the rule is counterproductive.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I would really like to see IDPA abandon the 1 non-threat per 3 threat targets. Target identification and engaging with "friendlies" present is something everyone should practice. I think the rule is counterproductive.

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I agree, too.

Another I'm not fond of is the whole "Tactical Sequence" thing. At least the new rules remove Tactical Sequence as a possibility if Tactical Priority is being employed, but having to put one round on each of multiple targets before re-engaging isn't necessarily the best thing to do. Gunsite, for example, teaches that a rapid controlled pair can be performed in only milliseconds longer than can a single shot. I think it should be up to the shooter to analyze the CoF--or be in the CoF description itself--and decide whether to use one round or two. I'd like to see Tactical Sequence go away.

I also wish walking backward while shooting would be dropped from the classifier in favor of diagonal movement. It used to be taught frequently, but has fallen out of favor over the past decade with defensive shooting instructors. If you have to get away from a threat while shooting, there are much better options than walking straight backward, unsighted, and along the direct line of incoming fire.
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Re: IDPA Rules Addendum Issued July 6, 2010

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I find the new rule for shooting through windows and the whole "clarification" thing to be in questionable due to IDPA stated objectives of not changing rules. If they are going to just send out email blasts and post rule changes on the IDPA Forum there can't be any "stability of rules". It appears the rules for IDPA have become a moving target. This is particularly bad when a shooter is heading to a major match particularly if they don't have an email or access to the web.

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Once you start having rules and keeping score you are playing a game. Life isn't a game, well except for the Milton Bradley game, many of the IDPA rules and techniques will lead to people getting killed in deadly force situations. I shoot IDPA to get the stress induced by the clock, trigger time, and hanging out with "the guys." When I design a COF or use a COF off the net I explain to the shooters why what we are doing is good or bad. I would hate to have one of my friends get injured or killed in a deadly force situation because they thought IDPA was training.
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Thank goodness the CDP weight was increased. So many "out of the box" 1911s were over weight.

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The IDPA rulebook has not changed in 5 years. Compared to other practical shooting sports that is unprecedented stability.

Limiting the number of non-threats is a direct counter to the USPSA habit of surrounding a target or a partial target with a sea of non-threats, thereby piling non-threat penalties on any missed shots.

I see these rules as primarily clarifications on existing rules. I'm sure Robert Ray got very tired of answering the same gamer questions over and over again. I see the gun modification changes as reflecting features that are now common on carry guns.

Neither USPSA or IDPA are tactical combat training. They are both games with rules that were designed to challenge shooters and give them an enjoyable experience. I would say that the rules are working for both games given their popularity. You can look at the more tactically oriented sports such as ACTS or Polite Society Matches that are virtually unknown to see that it's not just a matter of holding matches and calling them tactical. You have to make them enjoyable for all levels of shooters.

I like the fact that I can walk in off the street and shoot my carry gun and holster in IDPA and USPSA Production. I get lot's of practice in handling my carry gun. But that's the only connection to defensive shooting that these games have.

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