Reciprocity, and purchasing

[ZigMund]

I have a question that undoubtedly someone here will know the answer to. I am waiting on a Florida Non Resident CCW. This CCW will allow me, a Texas resident to carry in Florida. Also, this card has Texas reciprocity. What I am wondering is: since the the 4473 form allows holders of a CCW/CHL to purchase over the counter, will my Non-Resident Florida CCW permit allow me to purchase over the counter in Texas? I'm not trying to avoid the check, since I know I will pass it, but I don't yet have the Tx CHL, and it seems that my Florida permit will come in first.

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

[ZigMund]

Wow!!! 13 views and no response. Maybe I should clarify my reason for the question.

Since the NCIC check is a FEDERAL check, any state CCW/CHL should qualify you for purchase. The reason I am asking is that I was a dumbass in my youth, and when I fill out the form, I always get delayed, but then 3 days later I call the shop, and they say that I got a "proceed." Most shops I have been to say that they are too busy to call me and let me know I have a proceed, so I lose the option to get the sale price I bargained for. As a person who collects old militaria, and war relics, this can be a bit of a pain. I actually had a lady at a gun show say that the ATF agent who ran my ncic saw my previous check, and that it was a proceed, but since I was attemting to purchase from a DIFFERENT FFL, that I had to do a new ncic check, even though it was only 14 days since my last ncic check.

Am I the only one who has this problem?

[nitrogen]

Usually you need to be a resident of the state you want to buy a gun, so I dont think the CHL will help.

[KBCraig]

Wow!!! 13 views and no response.

Just 90 minutes after your initial post (after most folks are in bed)? Patience, ZigMund!

Since the NCIC check is a FEDERAL check, any state CCW/CHL should qualify you for purchase.

You're confusing a few things.

NCIC = National Crime Information Center, which is operated by the FBI. If you have a criminal record, NCIC are the ones who track it.

NICS = National Instant Check Check System, aka the "Brady Bill" background check.

Some states use the FBI as a point of contact when the 4473 is called in. Other states provide their own information. It's a very disjointed system.

Not all state CCW/CHL licenses conduct a background check. Some "must issue" states (NH, for instance) take that very literally: they don't conduct any background check, and unless they know of a reason why you should be denied, they must issue a license. Within 14 days, in the case of NH.

Some states' CCW/CHL programs include more extensive background checks, including checking NCIC. Some of those states (Texas included) are thorough enough that their concealed handgun licenses qualify licensees to skip NICS when buying firearms.

But only in Texas. Texans can't buy handguns outside the state, per federal law.

[ZigMund]

Usually you need to be a resident of the state you want to buy a gun, so I dont think the CHL will help.

actually I am a Texas resident, and the chl is a Non resident Florida CHL.

[frankie_the_yankee]

If you have a TX CHL, the gun dealer can skip the NICS check. Not sure if a FL CHL also qualifies for this or not.

[longtooth]

Wow!!! 13 views and no response. Maybe I should clarify my reason for the question.

?

None of us knew the answer.
Someone will.

[Crossfire]

A non-resident permit will not allow you to bypass NICS in any state. Period.

In order for a CCW/CFP/CHL to allow you to bypass NICS, it must be issued by the state in which you reside.

Trust me on this one. I teach the license class for 2 different states, so this is one question I get asked frequently.

[ZigMund]

A non-resident permit will not allow you to bypass NICS in any state. Period.

In order for a CCW/CFP/CHL to allow you to bypass NICS, it must be issued by the state in which you reside.

Trust me on this one. I teach the license class for 2 different states, so this is one question I get asked frequently.

Excellent!!! That's exactly what I wanted to know.